Carol Vorderman demands apology from Reform candidate over ‘disgusting comments’ Is she right and should Kenyon apologise?

Ah, you were being considerate of CV?

Kandinsky

*I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media*

Well exactly!
So why keep doing it?

Would you rather just ignore them or make sure every woman in the UK is aware of this potential MP’s thought processes? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Kandinsky

The problem is, how do you know CV is happy with people reposting the offensive comments?
If she’s said somewhere online or wherever that she is happy then fair enough.

CV is a grown up and isn't afraid of speaking her mind. I think we'd know by now if she were unhappy to have the words repeated.

Kandinsky

Absolutely - but it’s not CV who’s reposting the comments, it’s you.

I really don't understand your problem, Kandinsky. Do you think if issues are brushed under the carpet, they'll disappear?

That comment was made about CV. Kenyon "liked" it and added his own comment. That is a fact.

Kenyon is now standing in an election to be an MP. Everybody eligible for a vote in that constituency needs to know what kind of values he has. They can't know that unless they see first hand what he wrote - not some second comment about and abusive post (or whatever). CV is allowing people to publicise the actual words, so they can make up their own minds. If they're shocked by the words, they will hopefully do the right thing and not vote for him to be their MP.

The problem is, how do you know CV is happy with people reposting the offensive comments?
If she’s said somewhere online or wherever that she is happy then fair enough.

And the problem is?

Absolutely - but it’s not CV who’s reposting the comments, it’s you.

I'm not comparing the extent of Pelicot's abuse to that of CV- but the principle remains the same- it is the right of the woman to respond, and to respond in the best way for her. Tp be public is brave and paves the way for some good to come out of the incident.

Kandinsky

Well then that kind of weakens her argument doesn’t it. She wants an apology for something that’s offended her / women in general, yet is happy for the offensive comments to be reposted?

Very odd.

Kind of weaken's Carole Vorderman's argument - in what way?

Carole Vorderman does not need your permission to argue her case, whatever you mean by that. She does not need to argue for her right of reply to Kenyon. CV does not need to argue for permission to do what's right for her- that is her unalienable right of response.

Pelicot said keeping silent is like a double punishment for the victims and is suffering we impose upon ourselves. Worm dont need to suffer in silent, in shame when on the reaching end of men's misogyny anymore.

Pelicot never regretted her decision to waive her anonymity and expose the horrors visited upon her by her husband and those many other men. Finding out what happened she described was like feeling a tsunami inside herself. Letting the world know what happened was like releasing that. She was immensely brave; the world took notice and much good and understanding has come from her decision. We've seen such bravery repeated in the past few days by the young woman coming forward on LK show on Sunday about her rape and online grooming.

Kandinsky

*I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media*

Well exactly!
So why keep doing it?

Because brave women who are prepared to call it out need to be supported and people need to know what comments Kenyon made.

Kenyon is a RECRUITER.

It's dangerous to give into a man like Kenyon. He SM posts are perversive and persuasive. Even his anti immigrant posts, designed to stir up emotions and protest, since entering politics circle back round to abuse against women.

Kenyon is a dangerous man. Apart from his online misogyny- 419 of his archived posts reveal he campaigned as Reform UK’s candidate during the 2024 GE almost exclusively on alarmist claims about immigration and invasion. After he lost the Makerfield MP election, Kenyon began highlighting concerns about asylum seeker hostels and spreading false claims about their involvement in local crimes.

By the Summer 2024 riots a few weeks later, which started after the murder of 3 children in Southport, 20 miles away, Kenyon started seeding cover up narratives, directing racialised claims at the Home Office and using the deaths of the children as a recruitment pitch for the riots.

As the riots spread across England, mobs attacking mosques, burning hotels, clashing with police in a dozen cities, Kenyon became part of a national disinformation network amplifying Elon Musk and other far right influencers claiming that minority communities get more lenient policing.

Then "look at the people he was contacting to recruit to the riots" and how a significant proportion of them treat women. One out of every five people arrested after their participation in the 2024 summer riots has since been reported to the police for domestic abuse. Police data released under freedom of information (FoI) laws shows that 21% of 949 people arrested for taking part in the violent disorder have been reported for crimes associated with intimate partner violence since August 2024. For individuals arrested by Cumbria police, this figure was as high as 54%. Offences for which alleged rioters have since been reported include common assault, controlling and coercive behaviour, breach of domestic violence protection notice and injunctions, threats to kill, actual bodily harm, and criminal damage.

Two out of every five arrested for participating in the riots had been the subject of a domestic abuse report before their involvement in the 2024 public disorder.

Calls to protect women and children alongside anti-migrant rhetoric have been a common feature of these rallies "yet those participating in the rallies have been reported for crimes associated with inmate violence, before and after the riots*.

What? Just give into misogyny?

I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media

Well exactly!
So why keep doing it?

foxie48

Carol Vorderman is doing exactly what Gisele Pelicot was brave enough to do. She is exposing vile behaviour and demonstrating that she has done nothing wrong and has nothing to be ashamed of. The abuse has been done to her not the other way round. I heard these words on BBC radio 4 and was shocked, reading them is equally shocking, I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media generally. I have huge sympathy for anyone who is subjected to abuse like this and it needs to be exposed for what it is, ie vile misogyny.

Well said and I entirely agree xx

Carol Vorderman is doing exactly what Gisele Pelicot was brave enough to do. She is exposing vile behaviour and demonstrating that she has done nothing wrong and has nothing to be ashamed of. The abuse has been done to her not the other way round. I heard these words on BBC radio 4 and was shocked, reading them is equally shocking, I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media generally. I have huge sympathy for anyone who is subjected to abuse like this and it needs to be exposed for what it is, ie vile misogyny.

Yet another report this morning in the press: Nearly one in five girls in the UK receive persistent, unwanted images online, according to a poll by the charity Barnardo’s, which warned that online misogyny was becoming an everyday part of childhood.

Its survey of 4,000 young people found that a quarter of girls had been called degrading names online, while one in seven 13- to 15-year-olds had been asked to send a nude photo.

Lynn Perry, the chief executive of Barnardo’s, said the survey showed that online abuse and harassment were becoming “part of the background noise of growing up”.

“These findings show how constant, corrosive and deeply embedded it is in the lives of young people today both on and offline,” she said. “Young people are telling us that the result can be harmful on all sides, from humiliation and sexualised abuse to feelings of shame and isolation.”

We need to call it out when we know about it. CV is doing the right thing. "We need people seeking political office as MPs and their party leaders not only to not post on line abusive comments themselves but to call it out as unacceptable*.

Children reflect and mirror what they see and hear around them- online abuse is an ever growing problem: The BIG PICTURE as reported in the press today:

Department for Education data records up to three reasons for every suspension at English state-run schools. Persistent disruptive behaviour is the most common reason

Abuse over race, sexuality, gender identity or disability was logged 70,000 times between Autumn 2020 and Spring 2025
Note: Comparisons over time exclude 2020-21 due to the impact of the pandemic on school attendance

Education specialists told the BBC funding cuts to outreach services, social media harms, divisive politics and a lack of mandatory teacher training were among issues contributing to a growing problem. "Less tolerance of discrimination", "heightened awareness" and a growth in the use of suspensions overall were also highlighted by charities, unions and teachers.

Pepe Di'lasio, General Secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), said schools only use exclusions as a "last resort" but would not tolerate discriminatory behaviour. Di'lasio added: "The problems we are seeing are huge societal issues which cannot be solved solely in the classroom. "It feels as though we are living in an increasingly abrasive era."
Teaching union NASUWT has received "frequent reports" of teachers and pupils receiving prejudicial abuse, general secretary Matt Wrack said. Wrack warned against "demonising young people" as he said issues in wider society are inevitably reflected in schools.

Cossy

Kandinsky

I find the reposting of these disgusting comments very offensive & totally unnecessary.
Do you think Carol Vorderman wants these comments constantly reposted?
Are you thinking of her?

Do you? Don’t you find the comments themselves very offence and totally unnecessary, just the re-posting of them?

How very odd?

Kadinsky, I find your comments odd also. CV is a broadcaster and knows how the media industry operates. Yes I am thinking of her.

Carole Voderman had clear intention in wanting the country to be aware of Kenyon's specific comments and to be aware that she is seeking an apology. She intentionally is seeking media attention, traffic and push against Kenyon to brings into focus a debate about the extent of vile misogynisitic comments on line and coming from individuals seeking public office as an MP- ie a public servant.

Carole's doing her bit to push against misogyny. She would much prefer you and the public to push against Kenyon than individual's helping her cause. HER article has already been published in the press. It has been repeated once on this thread for any posters that did not see the press articles- still online Kadinsky.

If you have a problem with that so be it. I highly doubt CV has a problem with her newspaper article being repeated for discussion and debate. On the contrary I would imagine she would be delighted as that is her clear intention.

It is Kenyon that posted his vile comments on social media for the universe to see- he is the problem.

I agree with the last 3 posts above this one.

I don't understand why GNs are opposing the clear calling out of vile posts made by people wishing to be in power.
We have a right to know who and what Politicians are.

Vorderman is more than able to stand her corner. Repeating the insult will not phase her.

We need more like her.

Printing the comment shows how very offensive it is. Just saying "an offensive comment was made " shows nothing.There are people who may not have heard or seen it.If anything this strengthens her argument.Carol Vorderman is showing that she is not going to brush this foulness under the carpet , is standing up for the removal of this disgusting behaviour against all women.

Kandinsky

I find the reposting of these disgusting comments very offensive & totally unnecessary.
Do you think Carol Vorderman wants these comments constantly reposted?
Are you thinking of her?

Do you? Don’t you find the comments themselves very offence and totally unnecessary, just the re-posting of them?

How very odd?

MayBee70

From what I’ve read about Carol I’m pretty sure that she would be 100% behind the OP. She’s surprised me in recent years by being very politically active and vocal.

Yes indeed! 👏👏👏👏👏👍