Carol Vorderman demands apology from Reform candidate over ‘disgusting comments’ Is she right and should Kenyon apologise?

eazybee

I found the comment LemonJam chose to repeat quite disgusting and wondered at the desire to print it. After I had unravelled the convoluted opening sentence and established who the Countdown presenters and Wigan Councillors were I gather that the purpose is to attack Reform, using the increasingly embarrassing Vorderman as ammunition

Up to you, but I would ask for the offensive comment to be removed.

Feel free to report me to Gransnet if you’re offended eazybee. I’ve quoted directly from one of various newspaper articles.

Why should we cower from and hide Kenyon’s on line comments in the public domain? He’s accountable and responsible for his words- not me and not CV.

Young women and young men need to visually see the specific comments being called out and found unacceptable. Otherwise incremental acceptance ensues and Tay h comments are condoned and then in time, the norm.

Well stated Lemonjam

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Isn,t Kruger Prue Leigh’s son.?
Not a son to be proud of I would think!

the more publicity the better against any Reform candidate as far as I'm concerned because its proved their appalling acceptance of truly vile misogyny.

I'm no naive soul I know what men have said in locker rooms over the years, and easybee you know it ties in with assault, rape, and abuse of women.

eazybee

If you had bothered to read my post properly, Cossy, you would have noticed that I suggested the offensive comment was removed, not the post, No useful purpose in repeating it.

And your stupid comment, Maybee, asking why I want to protect this man. Grow up.

It's a bit harsh and somewhat rude eazybee to call other poster's comments "stupid" just because you don't like them or agree with them.

The person who needs to 'Grow up' is Kenyon?

Are you suggesting you were actually unaware of the offensive comments Kenyon made before reading this post. If so the post was educational for you.

Instead of limiting discussion by cleansing/removing Kenyon's offensive words - would be better to suggest Kenyon offers an apology to CV for his offensive words I would have thought. Better to direct any anger and censure you may have where it rightly belongs- Kenyon.

Now that would serve a much more useful purpose, if Kenyon is man enough and grown up enough to apologise. That would set a better example to teenage boys and young men in Makerfield.

Disgusting, just vile.

If he really wrote that he is sick in the head and should not be allowed to represent any party whatsoever.

What is stupid is the idea that I want to protect this man.
Inaccurate reading of posts and jumping to conclusions.

Perhaps Robert Kenyon was a dog in a previous existence.

I find the reposting of these disgusting comments very offensive & totally unnecessary.
Do you think Carol Vorderman wants these comments constantly reposted?
Are you thinking of her?

From what I’ve read about Carol I’m pretty sure that she would be 100% behind the OP. She’s surprised me in recent years by being very politically active and vocal.

Well then that kind of weakens her argument doesn’t it. She wants an apology for something that’s offended her / women in general, yet is happy for the offensive comments to be reposted?

Very odd.

eazybee

What is stupid is the idea that I want to protect this man.
Inaccurate reading of posts and jumping to conclusions.

No one read your comments inaccurately.

At least have the grace to apologise when it’s very clear your comment calling another poster’s comment stupid are rude.

Your response wasn’t necessary and yes, thank you, I did read your comment properly, and fully understood it.

By removing the offensive post within the OP’s post, one might as well remove the entire thread, if she hadn’t used the original offensive post, the entire thread loses its impact and meaning (in my humble opinion)

You are right about one thing, the words this “gentleman” used were very offensive and like many others, CV is not my favourite person. To speak of any woman in this way is frankly appalling.

I’m afraid, for me at least, it simply illustrates the attitude of both Reform and Restore, as their outdated and sexist views of women in general are well publicised.

Kandinsky

Well then that kind of weakens her argument doesn’t it. She wants an apology for something that’s offended her / women in general, yet is happy for the offensive comments to be reposted?

Very odd.

When did ANYONE state that?

Your comment is odd, CV, I would imagine, is more than happy to re-print something, which is already out there, to reinforce both her request for a public apology and to illustrate this candidates attitude towards both her and females in general.

MayBee70

From what I’ve read about Carol I’m pretty sure that she would be 100% behind the OP. She’s surprised me in recent years by being very politically active and vocal.

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Kandinsky

I find the reposting of these disgusting comments very offensive & totally unnecessary.
Do you think Carol Vorderman wants these comments constantly reposted?
Are you thinking of her?

Do you? Don’t you find the comments themselves very offence and totally unnecessary, just the re-posting of them?

How very odd?

Printing the comment shows how very offensive it is. Just saying "an offensive comment was made " shows nothing.There are people who may not have heard or seen it.If anything this strengthens her argument.Carol Vorderman is showing that she is not going to brush this foulness under the carpet , is standing up for the removal of this disgusting behaviour against all women.

Vorderman is more than able to stand her corner. Repeating the insult will not phase her.

We need more like her.

I don't understand why GNs are opposing the clear calling out of vile posts made by people wishing to be in power.
We have a right to know who and what Politicians are.

I agree with the last 3 posts above this one.

Cossy

Kandinsky

I find the reposting of these disgusting comments very offensive & totally unnecessary.
Do you think Carol Vorderman wants these comments constantly reposted?
Are you thinking of her?

Do you? Don’t you find the comments themselves very offence and totally unnecessary, just the re-posting of them?

How very odd?

Kadinsky, I find your comments odd also. CV is a broadcaster and knows how the media industry operates. Yes I am thinking of her.

Carole Voderman had clear intention in wanting the country to be aware of Kenyon's specific comments and to be aware that she is seeking an apology. She intentionally is seeking media attention, traffic and push against Kenyon to brings into focus a debate about the extent of vile misogynisitic comments on line and coming from individuals seeking public office as an MP- ie a public servant.

Carole's doing her bit to push against misogyny. She would much prefer you and the public to push against Kenyon than individual's helping her cause. HER article has already been published in the press. It has been repeated once on this thread for any posters that did not see the press articles- still online Kadinsky.

If you have a problem with that so be it. I highly doubt CV has a problem with her newspaper article being repeated for discussion and debate. On the contrary I would imagine she would be delighted as that is her clear intention.

It is Kenyon that posted his vile comments on social media for the universe to see- he is the problem.

Children reflect and mirror what they see and hear around them- online abuse is an ever growing problem: The BIG PICTURE as reported in the press today:

Department for Education data records up to three reasons for every suspension at English state-run schools. Persistent disruptive behaviour is the most common reason

Abuse over race, sexuality, gender identity or disability was logged 70,000 times between Autumn 2020 and Spring 2025
Note: Comparisons over time exclude 2020-21 due to the impact of the pandemic on school attendance

Education specialists told the BBC funding cuts to outreach services, social media harms, divisive politics and a lack of mandatory teacher training were among issues contributing to a growing problem. "Less tolerance of discrimination", "heightened awareness" and a growth in the use of suspensions overall were also highlighted by charities, unions and teachers.

Pepe Di'lasio, General Secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), said schools only use exclusions as a "last resort" but would not tolerate discriminatory behaviour. Di'lasio added: "The problems we are seeing are huge societal issues which cannot be solved solely in the classroom. "It feels as though we are living in an increasingly abrasive era."
Teaching union NASUWT has received "frequent reports" of teachers and pupils receiving prejudicial abuse, general secretary Matt Wrack said. Wrack warned against "demonising young people" as he said issues in wider society are inevitably reflected in schools.

Yet another report this morning in the press: Nearly one in five girls in the UK receive persistent, unwanted images online, according to a poll by the charity Barnardo’s, which warned that online misogyny was becoming an everyday part of childhood.

Its survey of 4,000 young people found that a quarter of girls had been called degrading names online, while one in seven 13- to 15-year-olds had been asked to send a nude photo.

Lynn Perry, the chief executive of Barnardo’s, said the survey showed that online abuse and harassment were becoming “part of the background noise of growing up”.

“These findings show how constant, corrosive and deeply embedded it is in the lives of young people today both on and offline,” she said. “Young people are telling us that the result can be harmful on all sides, from humiliation and sexualised abuse to feelings of shame and isolation.”

We need to call it out when we know about it. CV is doing the right thing. "We need people seeking political office as MPs and their party leaders not only to not post on line abusive comments themselves but to call it out as unacceptable*.

Carol Vorderman is doing exactly what Gisele Pelicot was brave enough to do. She is exposing vile behaviour and demonstrating that she has done nothing wrong and has nothing to be ashamed of. The abuse has been done to her not the other way round. I heard these words on BBC radio 4 and was shocked, reading them is equally shocking, I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media generally. I have huge sympathy for anyone who is subjected to abuse like this and it needs to be exposed for what it is, ie vile misogyny.

foxie48

Carol Vorderman is doing exactly what Gisele Pelicot was brave enough to do. She is exposing vile behaviour and demonstrating that she has done nothing wrong and has nothing to be ashamed of. The abuse has been done to her not the other way round. I heard these words on BBC radio 4 and was shocked, reading them is equally shocking, I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media generally. I have huge sympathy for anyone who is subjected to abuse like this and it needs to be exposed for what it is, ie vile misogyny.

Well said and I entirely agree xx