eazybee
I believe there was a pro -Palestine march as well.
Nothing said about that.
Nothing said by whom?
What is your problem?
Just seen in the news that the Met re deploying 4,000 extra police officers in London tomorrow, including armoured vehicles on standby.
If they are that concerned why haven’t they taken action to stop these marches or made them into standing rally’s in contained areas?
Our beautiful capital city once more rendered a no go zone.
Added into the mix it’s also the F A Cup final at Wembley Stadium.
All in the week when London has been named the number one city in the world for culture 🤦‍♀️
eazybee
I believe there was a pro -Palestine march as well.
Nothing said about that.
Nothing said by whom?
What is your problem?
I believe there was a pro -Palestine march as well.
Nothing said about that.
Galaxy
Yes I know.
🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, that made me laugh 
Yes I know.
Galaxy
Glad to have helped
You were no help at all. I was just acknowledging that I had seen what I assumed to be your response.
Glad to have helped
Galaxy
I think the left/right wing division is becoming more and more meaningless, I think it is also quite difficult to be left wing if you hate the working class, at the very best they don't understand class and view everything through the prism of other identities.
If that was in answer to my questions (why don't you use the quote facility instead of leaving us having to guess what you are responding to?) it doesn’t clarify anything at all. But thanks for responding if it is.
Allira
Wyllow3
I thought the BBC report was very even handed and it was very interesting but so so awful as in a divided UK to read it all. I feel sorrowful it's come to this.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d2ryyz0jzo
I really, really find the take over of our national flags by the far right horrendous.
It's like -the flags have ceased to be for us all, and how do we ever go back to when they were.I really, really find the take over of our national flags by the far right horrendous.
I agree, it is horrendous. But we should not let these right-wing racists take over. The flags are not theirs.
how do we ever go back to when they were.
It is up to us. No shying away because of what some people think they represent, we need to reclaim the flags and urge our politicians, local and national, to help us do that.
How? Sorry, but that sounds like empty rhetoric to me.
Led by Donkeys playing a montage about immigration being good for us.
Ending with, if you go back far enough, we are all immigrants. 👏 👏 👏
I think the left/right wing division is becoming more and more meaningless, I think it is also quite difficult to be left wing if you hate the working class, at the very best they don't understand class and view everything through the prism of other identities.
sixandahalf
What a load of tripe. Ah well.
Jump right in Nige.
What is (tripe?).
What a load of tripe. Ah well.
Jump right in Nige.
Starmer is not nationally reviled, as claimed upthread.
I haven't seen the news- was there actually any trouble?
Wyllow3
I thought the BBC report was very even handed and it was very interesting but so so awful as in a divided UK to read it all. I feel sorrowful it's come to this.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d2ryyz0jzo
I really, really find the take over of our national flags by the far right horrendous.
It's like -the flags have ceased to be for us all, and how do we ever go back to when they were.
I really, really find the take over of our national flags by the far right horrendous.
I agree, it is horrendous. But we should not let these right-wing racists take over. The flags are not theirs.
how do we ever go back to when they were.
It is up to us. No shying away because of what some people think they represent, we need to reclaim the flags and urge our politicians, local and national, to help us do that.
Galaxy
They aren't left. They are progressives/identity politics people. There isn't anything left wing about them.
Can you explain what you mean by these terms?
Are you refraining from putting them on a left - right spectrum because you think the terms are meaningless, or is it because they are just not left wing . If they're not left wing are they flightless?
All genuine questions, G
I don't object to any of them.
eazybee
I find it shameful that people object to the display of the Union flag, St.George's Cross, the Saltire and the Welsh Dragon. They are the flags of Britain, and are not displayed or venerated nearly enough.
Sad that it takes Tommy Robinson/Yaxley -Lennon to utilise them for his own purpose.
No-one seems to object to the Saltire or Union Flag here, they’re frequently flown together.
The flag of St. George has been hijacked by thugs, it’s very simple.
They aren't left. They are progressives/identity politics people. There isn't anything left wing about them.
Kandinsky
Ah, the peace loving left.
I hope they’re arrested and thrown in jail for inciting violence.
So do I, and I’m a member of the left leaning!
There’s wrong and right in almost every political spectrum.
We are all entitled to our views and opinions and to respect, we should respect each other, especially on here.
I make no secret of the fact I’d rather eat my own arm than vote Reform. I don’t understand anyone who supports them, or Trump or the YL mob, but we live in a democracy and so long as no laws are broken, including hate speech (or chants), then live and let live.
Anyone who breaks the law, doesn’t matter who they are or why they did it, should all be treated the same and face the consequences of their actions.
Words do matter, we all know this, and if we’re being honest we all know what these groups who march waving our flag mean, the same as those hanging them up on every blooming lamppost.
I’ve just seen that there were much lower attendance numbers for both the marches than the leaders claimed there would be, the police commentator estimated about 60,000 for the Unite rally, and 20,000 for the Palestine one. Perhaps people were put off by the prospect of violent clashes and decided not to risk attending.
Hmm. Only one set of demonstrators wearing face coverings I see….
How dare Starmer be so one sided. No wonder he’s nationally reviled. Apart from anything else, it just emboldens them.
Wyllow3
I thought the BBC report was very even handed and it was very interesting but so so awful as in a divided UK to read it all. I feel sorrowful it's come to this.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d2ryyz0jzo
I really, really find the take over of our national flags by the far right horrendous.
It's like -the flags have ceased to be for us all, and how do we ever go back to when they were.
Sad times
GrannyGravy13
Oops sorry I omitted to say they were referring to Robinson/Yaxley-Lennon
Much as YL disgusts me, chants such as these disgust me too.
Honestly, what’s wrong with (*some*) people?
I thought the BBC report was very even handed and it was very interesting but so so awful as in a divided UK to read it all. I feel sorrowful it's come to this.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d2ryyz0jzo
I really, really find the take over of our national flags by the far right horrendous.
It's like -the flags have ceased to be for us all, and how do we ever go back to when they were.
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