So it begins….. Streeting resigns

ronib

Goon show politics. But no one is laughing.

Totally agree politics seem more like a soap opera as each day progresses
As far as I am concerned I no longer give a toss what they do life is too short.

AGAA4 and Maybee, I mentioned this further back ,
There are certain newspapers which seemed determined to bring down the Labour Government right from the get go. Then we have the huge donations to Reform and individual ones to Farage.
I know some posters will say I've been watching too many spy films, but somethings are making me feel quite uneasy as they don't add up.

Goon show politics. But no one is laughing.

AGAA4

Babsbada

What a mess.
Streeting doing a good job, economy on the up and Starmer delivering in spite of stupid errors early on. They were elected with a huge majority have had barely two years to try and make up for the catastrophic under investment of the past 15 years. Give them the chance they deserve and stop this opportunistic personal ambition and disloyalty. The rebels are handing the country to vile, cheating racists taking their lead from Farage. Frightening and shameful.

I agree with this. It certainly is shameful. I believe there are outside forces interfering in our government. Those who want Farage as PM.

I agree. And I’ve been thinking this for a long time.

It all beggars belief. Makerfield is far from a safe Labour seat and all they are doing is opening up the opportunity for Reform to get another MP into parliament, as they were a fairly close second to Labour last time.

They must be nuts.

I am torn between desperately wanting no more Reform MPs and thinking that Burnham deserves his bloody nose if that is what he gets.

It is all so unnecessary.

SaxonGrace

His slate can hardly be called clean , for starters he is the protege of Mandleson, I’ve read some of his tweets that are on X atm, they are unpleasant and some down right violent, he must be very annoyed they have resurfaced and will bite him in the bum. I’m fairly sick of the lot of them, as for Burnham, his history is hardly laudable, encouraging the hormone medicating of children and refusing to back inquiry into grooming gangs despite the pleas of many victims and children. A General Election may well be in Oder.

This article on the bbc site disputes your claim that Andy Burnham refused to back an enquiry.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93l5y8v1pxo

I'm fed up with the lot of them. They are supposed to be working for and looking out for us. Not seen much of this happening.
They are all out for themselves.

Babsbada

What a mess.
Streeting doing a good job, economy on the up and Starmer delivering in spite of stupid errors early on. They were elected with a huge majority have had barely two years to try and make up for the catastrophic under investment of the past 15 years. Give them the chance they deserve and stop this opportunistic personal ambition and disloyalty. The rebels are handing the country to vile, cheating racists taking their lead from Farage. Frightening and shameful.

I agree with this. It certainly is shameful. I believe there are outside forces interfering in our government. Those who want Farage as PM.

Ugh no nor me!!! Angela marbler mouth Rayner? Her tax affairs all conveniently sorted out , no case to answer, highly suspicious, , just in time for ? Andy Burnham being hailed as a saviour? How can either of these 2 turn the UK round where others fail

I don’t believe that there will be an early general election. Farage thinks if he keeps saying it, it will happen, but what party, when unpopular and in power, has ever thrown the towel in? No, they hang on, hope it will get better, and know that they are the only ones who can call it, for as long as they have a majority - and the Labour majority is unassailable.

I couldn't agree more. Politicians? I"ve seen better behaved school children and am thoroughly sick of the whole darn shower. The sad thing is, they lead our country and decide our futures and cant agree amongst themselves. But no matter what, politicians will all be ok one way or another whilst the rest of us struggle/muddle through.

Yes, I'm afraid you're right LizieDrip

Let's hope they get hoist by their own petard between now and then.

Allira 15:15

I’m thinking about the next GE which, if Reform (with media help) can manipulate things, may be closer than we think.

Farage has already said there’ll be a GE earlier than 2029. Ignore him at our peril!

All this chaos, changing PMs, division in the Labour Party plays straight into the hands of Reform.

It reinforces their message that Labour & the Tories are two cheeks of the same ar** … so vote for the nice Mr Farage if you want something different!

Whitewavemark2

Bloody fools.

I’ve lost patience with them.

Streeting had better have a slate that is whiter than white because if he hasn’t the right wing press will have him for breakfast. Likewise all the potential PMs.

"whiter then white"? Streeting was in bed with Mandelson so to speak and his "holier than thou" resignation letter was a snivelling attempt to rubbish Starmer to prepare the ground for a coup.

Babsbada

What a mess.
Streeting doing a good job, economy on the up and Starmer delivering in spite of stupid errors early on. They were elected with a huge majority have had barely two years to try and make up for the catastrophic under investment of the past 15 years. Give them the chance they deserve and stop this opportunistic personal ambition and disloyalty. The rebels are handing the country to vile, cheating racists taking their lead from Farage. Frightening and shameful.

I totally agree with you. Voters must be careful what they wish for. MAGA voters in the US are wallowing in regret now.

What a mess.
Streeting doing a good job, economy on the up and Starmer delivering in spite of stupid errors early on. They were elected with a huge majority have had barely two years to try and make up for the catastrophic under investment of the past 15 years. Give them the chance they deserve and stop this opportunistic personal ambition and disloyalty. The rebels are handing the country to vile, cheating racists taking their lead from Farage. Frightening and shameful.

The explanation of the £5m donation to Farage is not going away either. Heaven help us if Reform gets into power, though I think for the next three years lots can change. Voters have only to look at what Trump is doing to America. Is the UK ready for a Trump style of government?

Betony

Thank you, eazybee, for your clarification re the Attorney General. I've been worried about our present Prime Minister and his unelected familiars. Not exactly democratic, is it?

It’s important to have an Attorney General with integrity. Johnson appointed Braverman to help him evade scrutiny and we all know where she stands politically.

If Andy Burnham wins, I think he will give Wes a Cabinet position. Streeting has come out in support of Burnham winning his seat, and I think this is a clever political ploy. Let's face it, both Street in and Burnham are taking a political risk. Burnham may not win his seat and Wes has a very narrow majority in his constituency.

LizzieDrip

^Clearly, if Burnham lost he would lose a lot of kudos, but it appears that he wouldn't lose his current job^

So, this man supposedly really wants to lead this country because he cares about us all … but might be able to hang on to his mayoral job if it all goes ti** up at the by-election.

All he’ll lose will be kudos; much higher stakes for the rest of us.

Oh well, as long as he’ll be OK when the rest of us are suffering the depravity of a Reform government😡

If Reform gained Makerfield then they would have a total of nine MPs.

Hardly enough to form a Government.

Cossy- I'm not surprised nor sorry Streeting has gone, he's a snake thinking only of himself whilst putting some distance between himself & Starmer. If Starmer appears to be a lame duck, woe betide us with Streeting as PM. He has the personality & authority of a fly & should shuffle off & join the Tory party where he'd fit right in.

fancythat

Allira

Somehow Farage popped up on my FB feed today. Why? He was complaining about a Guardian journalist outside his house and saying this is why he needs a protection officer.
He courts publicity then complains when he gets some.

Be careful, posters, he's getting in everywhere. Is it because I sometimes look at the Guardian online?

What can or should he do though, in reality?

Stay off my Facebook page uninvited for a start.

Thank you, eazybee, for your clarification re the Attorney General. I've been worried about our present Prime Minister and his unelected familiars. Not exactly democratic, is it?

MaizieD

ronib

Such optimism MaizieD. 1976?

Optimism about what?

Oh, the rush to the IMF.

!976 was entirely different from now in that we had only recently finally come off the Gold Standard, which theoretically gave our currency its 'value', but the government didn't understand the implications inherent in have a free floating sovereign fiat currency.

As I understand it, the IMF loan was barely used anyway and soon repaid. (Chatgpt agrees with me)

Not a voters in the last GE because there was no one worth the walk. But if Rupert Lowe can get it together by the next GE I will actually shuffle to the polling station armed with a pen to vote!!!