So it begins….. Streeting resigns

Whitewavemark2

Streeting has formally recognised that Brexit was a disaster.

I think he’s trying to throw a spanner in Burnham’s works. He has said that he will campaign for him in Makerfield. I understand that it is in a high Brexit voting area. So, Burnham campaigner is now known to want to overturn the Brexit vote (or ‘ignore/destroy democracy’ as many put it). So probably Burnham does too? ‘No way are we voting for that!’

Burnham loses to Reform. Sneaky Streeting has removed a rival…

Feasible?

Streeting has formally recognised that Brexit was a disaster.

Mamie

Having lived in France for twenty years, I would say the reasons most frequently expressed for wanting to be in the UK are family, the language and the lack of identity cards, which makes it easier to hide under the radar. I don't understand why people who are concerned about immigration are not campaigning for identity cards?

You’ve been on GN long enough to know that lots of people are anti-identity cards for various reasons.

Why would many Australians dread Starmer? I don’t understand.

nanna8

Dreaded by me and dreaded by a lot over here. Why the big swing in the local elections ? Obviously dreaded by many. But, and a big but, would others challenging him be any better? Remains to be seen .

I don’t see that Australians have any business to ‘dread’ Starmer. He’s our PM, not yours.

Take an interest in UK politics by all means, but don’t act surprised and offended when people take issue with your opinions.

MartavTaurus

twaddle

Starmer isn't dreaded by all and there really is no need to call him names.

the dreaded Starmer
isn't actually calling him names, because dreaded is an adjective and not the noun, (name). Technically, you have to call the someone the name. So, the dreaded idiot, Starmer would be calling him a name.

Signed, the irritating, pedantic Marta
= is not calling me names, it's describing me.

It's being used as a "fixed epithet". If you've ever studied linguistics, you'll know what one is.

twaddle

Starmer isn't dreaded by all and there really is no need to call him names.

the dreaded Starmer
isn't actually calling him names, because dreaded is an adjective and not the noun, (name). Technically, you have to call the someone the name. So, the dreaded idiot, Starmer would be calling him a name.

Signed, the irritating, pedantic Marta
= is not calling me names, it's describing me.

Dreaded by me and dreaded by a lot over here. Why the big swing in the local elections ? Obviously dreaded by many. But, and a big but, would others challenging him be any better? Remains to be seen .

nanna8

I would say 50:50 whether Burnham even gets elected so no need to worry. The dreaded Starmer will probably live to destroy the Labour Party even further.

He isn’t dreaded and he hasn’t destroyed the party. It’s hell bent on destroying itself but it isn’t his fault. I’m proud to see him representing us on the world stage,something I haven’t felt for a long time about our PM’s. He didn’t inflict Brexit on us and walk away like Cameron. Or crash the economy like Truss.

If the reality is a leadership contest: then possible candidates will be laying out their programme.
Hardly strange, hot news? I agree with your post Lemonjam - a contest conducted with respect although the press will do its best to try and provoke the opposite.

It's what happens. I will watch the exchange of views and different approaches with interest. Of course

Yes, I have been concerned about Palantir for months and months, I'm not happy with Streetings' role in it, except it would have to have gone through "HQ".

Starmer isn't dreaded by all and there really is no need to call him names.

I would say 50:50 whether Burnham even gets elected so no need to worry. The dreaded Starmer will probably live to destroy the Labour Party even further.

I hope Starmer doesn’t resign. With a bit of luck he won’t. The instability caused by this in fighting is playing havoc with our economy. As for Burnham being the Messiah who saves the Labour Party I heard that someone had texted in on LBC today “He’s not the Messiah, he is a VERY naughty boy”. Thought that described it very well. It gave me a laugh which I needed amongst the rubbish that is likely to tear this country apart. I fear for the younger generation if Reform get in and the idiots fighting in Downing Street will be to blame.

May 9th
Appointment of Harriet Harman as the Prime Minister's Adviser on Women and Girls
Baroness Harman will advise the PM on how to galvanise Government to deliver for women and girls.

She will work with ministers across Government to drive an impactful agenda focusing on tackling violence against women and girls . . .

The role will see her draw on work with women across Parliament to identify action needed to tackle misogyny
Sounds good till you read . .

Harriet Harman, Starmer's new adviser on women and girls, said last year that men can be women and that “there's all sorts of women,
"women are women who are born women, but women are also women who are trans women

Mollygo

Is it true that Starmer has appointed someone who believes men can be woman as a minister for women?
Surely not even he could be that stupid?

Bridget Philippson has been Secretary of state for Education and Minister for Women and Equalities since July 2024.

Having listened to sone key aspects of Streeting”s speech - and read some other sources- Streeting confirmed he would stand IF a leadership contest is triggered and hopes for a “good natured contest.”… “ Where all the candidates can put their best foot forward. It’s got to be a battle of ideas so that whoever wins comes out stronger for it”

He said he hopes Burnham wins in Makerfield and he’s enjoyed working with him and will “ be out there going door knocking day after day to help him get elected”. That sounds better.

Is it true that Starmer has appointed someone who believes men can be woman as a minister for women?
Surely not even he could be that stupid?

Thanks for the link MaizieD.

Palantir NHS access is a fiasco. I wonder why Streeting thought he had to come out today to declare he would run against Burnham that a combative statement. May be I'm missing something but I can't see the advantage in doing that so early?

I would have thought his priority was to gain more favour with Labour members as Streeting's favour trails behind Burnham in first place and Rayner in second place by Labour members.

I don't quite know which thread to put this on.

Streeting made a speech today at a conference and it was reported live by a journalist on BlueSky.

He's decided that he is going to run against Burnham for the leadership, if, of course, Burnham becomes an MP.

Among the more strange things he said was:

We treat the tech as inevitable force of nature that have the pen to write our future for us

It is time to take the pen back from the tech broligarchs", says Streeting

This is the ex minister who has allowed Palantir unlimited access to all our NHS data..

And,

An eye-catching comment from Streeting was that "a dishonest leadership contest" after 2019 was one of the underlying reasons for Labour being unprepared for government. [Leadership contest pledges were ditched post-contest - eg, would defend & bring back free movement, to red line no free movement]
(This is strange because the accusation of a 'dishonest' leadership campaign is very long standing and you wouldn't expect a former minister who benefitted from it to have endorsed it)

Well...

Here's the thread

bsky.app/profile/did:plc:refbwihhzcqqfulwhcou44sr/post/3mly2je7gt22v

rowyn

Is there any way of the public manipulating things so that we can demand a General Election IMMEDIATELY?
PLEASE!

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No. You can forget that possibility, however hard you wish for it. Parties in power experiencing unpopularity don’t give up power until near the final election date.

rowyn

if you can pick out anyone amongst the Labour MPs, that would make a reliable and sensible PM, then I congratulate you on your positivity.

If , however, you would consider Rayner or Reeves, to mention just two, then I despair, Allira.

Well I wouldn’t consider either of them that’s for sure.But I would support Streeting or Burnham.

if you can pick out anyone amongst the Labour MPs, that would make a reliable and sensible PM, then I congratulate you on your positivity.

If , however, you would consider Rayner or Reeves, to mention just two, then I despair, Allira.

That is the last thing we need, quite frankly.

rowyn

Is there any way of the public manipulating things so that we can demand a General Election IMMEDIATELY?
PLEASE!

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why the capital letters? Why do you need help?

Is there any way of the public manipulating things so that we can demand a General Election IMMEDIATELY?
PLEASE!

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!