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Revolving door politics

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Fallingstar Tue 12-May-26 09:04:43

Today it seems Starmer could resign as PM, but what does this say about our national politics in the past decade, when PMs on both sides of the political divide have come and gone with tedious regularity?
Have we grown out of one party politics?
Is it it time to embrace coalition politics?
Is social media/populous views responsible for revolving doors politics??
I wanted Starmer to go but am now considering this more deeply and think it could be more harmful than good. Surely our PMs cannot be subject to a lynching mob whenever the going gets tough. If a party wins an election shouldn’t that mean they see out a full term?

westendgirl Tue 12-May-26 13:00:56

Primrose, do you not scan the headlines of the national press?If you look further back in this site you will see two examples , one from the Mail and one from the Express showing exactly that bias.Perfect examples of the tack the right wing press have taken.

MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 12:57:16

Oh and then there was the picture of him with a hangover after partying with Lebedev ( who he then have a knighthood to) when he was Foreign Minister. Good job the press were there to see it because I believe he gave his security guards the slip….

MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 12:55:16

Which family is that? His new one or the one he walked out on? As for being a buffoon, it wasn’t a good look seeing him at international functions with his shirt hanging out. Fiddling about with umbrellas and rambling on about Peppa Pig when giving talks…he was a total embarrassment on the world stage.

Primrose53 Tue 12-May-26 12:52:30

I just saw a clip of Anne Widdecombe saying that in the past there were just two main parties but now there is a serious contender in Reform and people are voting for them because they are fed up with both Labour and Conservatives and want change. She is a wise old owl and yes, I do know she is in Reform.

LizzieDrip Tue 12-May-26 12:49:43

MT62

& that’s why I like Kemi, she can hold her own at PMQS

Sadly politics has been reduced to a game show - theatrics, performance, who ‘does best at PMQs’ 🙈

Primrose53 Tue 12-May-26 12:44:21

westendgirl

Oreo, the media attack stuff is not nonsense. It started from the moment Starmer became P.M.. There has been constant negative reporting , all reflected on this site .

For goodness sake - that is a lame excuse.

Starmer has had nothing like Boris had to contend with from the moment he became Mayor and then carried on when he became PM. He was photographed and videod out jogging, cycling, walking, abseiling, holidaying, with his family …. Just every occasion. He was ridiculed and called a buffoon and other names. I don’t recall Starmer being called horrible names by the Conservatives. The worst description of him has been that he is boring and wooden.

Spinnaker Tue 12-May-26 12:42:30

FGT I knew what you meant but couldn't resist 😂

Basgetti Tue 12-May-26 12:42:25

Both work 😁

Spinnaker Tue 12-May-26 12:41:50

😂😂 The thick plotters 😂😂

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 12-May-26 12:33:31

*plottens
Ha my play on words just bombed.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 12-May-26 12:32:45

And now … Any Burnham has apparently just arrived in London. The thick plotters. 😁

MT62 Tue 12-May-26 12:32:11

MT62

I haven’t seen much on climate change with the greens lately.
Just going on about Gaza.

I don’t agree with legalising hard drugs apart from dope for medicinal use if, it isn’t smoked outside as our small town stinks of cannabis.

I agree sex workers should be treated better. Better controlled units where they can do their job safely.

I personally don’t want open borders as we don’t know who is entering.
Anyone throwing away passports/ paper work should be detained/or deported.

Cossy

MT62 Tue 12-May-26 12:31:26

I haven’t seen much on climate change with the greens lately.
Just going on about Gaza.

I don’t agree with legalising hard drugs apart from dope for medicinal use if, it isn’t smoked outside as our small town stinks of cannabis.

I agree sex workers should be treated better. Better controlled units where they can do their job safely.

I personally don’t want open borders as we don’t know who is entering.
Anyone throwing away passports/ paper work should be detained/or deported.

Wyllow3 Tue 12-May-26 12:30:35

Yes, it does help if posters know the difference between a Councillor and a Counsellor…

Basgetti Tue 12-May-26 12:19:02

Bloody ridiculous. What on earth is wrong with the Labour MPs calling for his resignation? Prior to the Iran situation and oil price hikes, the economic figures were improving. Labour has put into place several good policies which many people don’t seem to realise: its communications people are atrocious.

The public is sick tired of the constant chopping and changing. He has a mandate for 5 years and that’s what he should serve.

butterandjam Tue 12-May-26 11:59:42

mum2three

I think our whole system is flawed. So often people are forced to choose between a candidate and the party. How many good counsellors lost their seats at the last election because of the party they represented?
I think a committee (if that's the right word) would be better, with debates to decide policies.

Councillors ARE a committee who discuss and decide local policies.

Local councillors are elected representatives who act as the bridge between residents and the council, responsible for representing their ward, setting council policy, managing budgets, and conducting casework. They make decisions on local services—such as planning, housing, and social care—and ensure community views are heard.

Counsellors offer individual therapy for anxiety, depression, relationships, and trauma.

I hope you know what you voted for.

Granatlast007 Tue 12-May-26 11:59:03

Fallingstar

fancythat

I am probably out of sync with a lot of people on this one, but I dont see the problem if Leaders come and go.
More democracy that way.

I don’t see it as more democracy but more political turmoil and shenanigans with members of a party revealed as simply careerist politicians ready to stick the knife in. Is horrible.

I completely agree Fallingstar, there have been a couple of interesting GN threads of late about the bias in our media which is almost totally owned by billionaires who control what is published.

I couldn't help seeing yesterday the Daily Mail headline 'Fears Starmer is plotting a full blown Brexit betrayal'. All the Express headlines I see are full blown hyperbole/outright nonsensical lies aimed at the lowest educated of the populace who will have already been fed racist lies and bigotry against immigrants.

I noticed this morning an article on the BBC about Zak Polanski living in a narrowboat in London 'and not paying council tax' and I just thought - oh more slurs against any opposition to we all know which party - the one now with more financial backing than any other UK political party.

We don't have democracy any longer in this country. If we had proportional representation we would at least have parliamentary seats allocated on the basis of votes. I can see why Starmer upsets people but our political situation is in such disarray, Labour is in pieces running in all directions on the basis of social media and news reports in mainstream media. I just can't believe what I'm seeing day after day.

Cossy Tue 12-May-26 11:55:28

*pumps mm pimps!

Cossy Tue 12-May-26 11:54:40

MT62

GREENS! Cossy. Why?

Not Zack. I’d like to preserve our world and mitigate the damage us humans have done, I would like to see some steps taken re climate control, and their manifesto states very clearly that Greens would like to see a more equitable society and believe in social justice.

I don’t want entirely open borders.

I do actually agree with the decriminalising of many drugs, and I’d like to see sex workers treated better.

Ideally, of course, there would be no drugs at all, there’d be no sex workers, but I just think some way of dealing with both the above could be found that rids our country of gangs, pumps, child sex workers and needless deaths from tampered cut drugs!

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MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 11:50:58

butterandjam

TerriBull

I didn't vote for Labour, but I really hope Starmer doesn't go, better the devil you know are my thoughts. I think he's been disappointing apart from when he stood up to Trump. Rachel Reeves has been a positively awful Chancellor imo, she's reeked havoc on business and the effects of which are catastrophic.

The problems Starmer can't resolve ( boat migration, cost of living, fuel supply) are issues that will face any other PM . These are rooted in global events which have nothing to do with KS popularity or personality.

When a foreign billionaire can buy a proven charlatan like Farage to take over our political system via social media THAT is a real threat to this country.

Something that Labour are trying to do something about. Which might be why somebody somewhere aided by the media, want to destabilise the party?

MT62 Tue 12-May-26 11:50:29

MT62

& that’s why I like Kemi, she can hold her own at PMQS

Cossy

MT62 Tue 12-May-26 11:45:40

GREENS! Cossy. Why?

MT62 Tue 12-May-26 11:41:36

& that’s why I like Kemi, she can hold her own at PMQS

Cossy Tue 12-May-26 11:41:07

Casdon

It’s a dirty game. Between Starmer being hounded out, Polanski not paying his poll tax, and Farage and the mystery bungs, today is an embarrassment for British politics.

I agree! Grown adult people who should know better!