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Starmer’s Speech today.

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Primrose53 Mon 11-May-26 11:40:44

A report on BBC

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevp4kr79e4o

Some of the comments are hilarious and there are plenty of them.

A commentator on TV just said despite rolling up his shirt sleeves and not wearing a tie, KS is still more wooden than Sherwood Forest. 🤣

I will give him some credit though because he didn’t consult his notes and he didn’t mention his Father, the Toolmaker although he very nearly did.

MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 09:13:17

Seems to me that people that have never liked Starmer are relishing all of this. No thought for the harm it’s doing our country both nationally and internationally; not to mention the economy.

Silvergirl Tue 12-May-26 09:10:59

In England these were local elections which often attract protest votes during mid term.

MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 09:10:04

mum2three

He always looks as though he has just woken up and has no idea where he is or how he got there.
However, he is now showing his true colours....he's a dictator. He knows perfectly well why so many people voted for Reform but he's determined to go again with his own agenda anyway.
I'm curious to know how he is at home. Does he force his will on his wife and family?

What a vile thing to say about Keir. He’s a devoted family man and is very defensive of his family. Have you ever seen him chatting to children in schools etc? He’s a natural with them.

sixandahalf Tue 12-May-26 09:09:36

mum2three

He always looks as though he has just woken up and has no idea where he is or how he got there.
However, he is now showing his true colours....he's a dictator. He knows perfectly well why so many people voted for Reform but he's determined to go again with his own agenda anyway.
I'm curious to know how he is at home. Does he force his will on his wife and family?

I'm pretty sure that is libellous but no problem.

If he goes it will be a victory for some of the right who are gleeful about more instability in an already unstable world.

Sarnia Tue 12-May-26 09:07:00

I did not vote for Labour and don't view Sir Keir Starmer as a great PM however, I prefer him to stay because he seems to be the best of a poor bunch.
He mentioned tackling child poverty in his speech. Does this mean that Rachel Reeves's removal of the two-cap child benefit which she said at the time would lift 350,000 children out of poverty immediately, isn't working? Starmer is desperate to remain as PM so in order to do that he must look at the reasons why other parties did so well and why Labour did so badly. Labour's clarion call was CHANGE but there is little evidence of that and certainly not for the better.

Silvergirl Tue 12-May-26 09:04:36

We had 14 years of Austerity, a huge world pandemic, a failed massive GDP losing Brexit. You can't cure all that in 2 years. I hope they don't yield to media pressure and change the PM again. It is not the answer but I fear I will be disappointed.

mum2three Tue 12-May-26 09:03:43

He always looks as though he has just woken up and has no idea where he is or how he got there.
However, he is now showing his true colours....he's a dictator. He knows perfectly well why so many people voted for Reform but he's determined to go again with his own agenda anyway.
I'm curious to know how he is at home. Does he force his will on his wife and family?

AGAA4 Tue 12-May-26 08:48:48

MayBee70 you made an important point. Starmer does work well with other world leaders which at this dangerous time with the Trump regime is crucial. I can't see anyone else who could do this. Wes Streeting? Angela Raynor? I don't think so. Not sure about Andy Burnham.

sixandahalf Tue 12-May-26 08:48:13

MartavTaurus

Well at least Farage supports farmers 🥔🥕🧅🥦 and was particularly visible and vocal during rallies against inheritance tax charges.

Really? Almost comical.

Farage, the lazy, billionaire supports himself.

MartavTaurus Tue 12-May-26 08:39:01

Well at least Farage supports farmers 🥔🥕🧅🥦 and was particularly visible and vocal during rallies against inheritance tax charges.

MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 08:34:44

MartavTaurus

As an aside, Keir Starmer, is a barrister and a QC, someone who one would expect to have command of persuasive verbal skills, yet whenever he makes a speech, his prose is as leaden as a coffin and he has the persuasive skills of a rotten potato.^

🥔 😂

That's so funny! Today is our food caddy collection day, and this morning I found a rotten sweet potato at the bottom of my vegetable drawer. Out with the trash!

Well, the person with persuasive verbal skills is Nigel Farage. Would that make him a good PM? Starmers persuasive skills seem to help him work well with other world leaders; they don’t seem to have a problem with him.

MartavTaurus Tue 12-May-26 08:33:50

This is for M0nica.

MartavTaurus Tue 12-May-26 08:26:18

As an aside, Keir Starmer, is a barrister and a QC, someone who one would expect to have command of persuasive verbal skills, yet whenever he makes a speech, his prose is as leaden as a coffin and he has the persuasive skills of a rotten potato.^

🥔 😂

That's so funny! Today is our food caddy collection day, and this morning I found a rotten sweet potato at the bottom of my vegetable drawer. Out with the trash!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 12-May-26 08:25:07

I can remember when people were calling for PM Johnson to resign, he had to resign, and rightly so.

But, due to it being hastened by his cabinet and back benchers we ended up with Liz Truss.

I hope that lessons have been learnt (sorry to use that dreadful phrase) the next PM could be worse.

MartavTaurus Tue 12-May-26 08:22:55

MayBee70

MartavTaurus

We need someone less arrogant too.

In his speech Starmer implied voters were angry that changes weren't happening fast enough for them. Err no, people don't actually like those changes he's made/making!
So they look elsewhere!

So who would you like to be running the country?

It doesn't really apply because I'd vote Conservative, but out of the motley bunch mentioned, possibly Wes Streeting. Not only because he was my London Borough Councillor Deputy, then Leader, and was ok, but because he listens to people.

M0nica Tue 12-May-26 08:21:03

Maremia

The media engineering his downfall...absolutely.

What an offensive remark. All of us are living with the bad management of this government, some much more than others.

To suggest that we are all manipulated by the media. if we are, why are you one of the exceptions?

One of the ost unedifying things to have come out of the whole Starmer shambles has been the way He and all his government and its supporters all refuse to take any resposibility for anything. they blame the media, the voter, Reform, the Greens, Old Uncle Tom Cobley and all. Why do none of them have the guts to standup and say 'We got it wrong and this is what we will do to put it right.

As an aside, Keir Starmer, is a barrister and a QC, someone who one would expect to have command of persuasive verbal skills, yet whenever he makes a speech, his prose is as leaden as a coffin and he has the persuasive skills of a rotten potato.

sixandahalf Tue 12-May-26 08:17:30

Oreo

Staying with a dud PM isn’t helping anyone.

The dud closed down the post Southport riots pretty quickly and didn't dance to Trump's tune.

AGAA4 Tue 12-May-26 08:17:12

It isn't looking good for Starmer or the country this morning. We had all this chaos with the Tories and I want the government to get on with the important issues. Starmer has done the right thing by refusing to follow Trump into an illegal war which was important to our country.
Who would be his replacement? I believe that whoever takes over will be gone very soon and we would face more chaos.

Mamie Tue 12-May-26 08:16:37

Allsorts

Agree with Kadinski, however he still doesn't listen, but can you imagine Angela Rayner taking over, thats what she is after along with her cronies. We would be finished then. He should get rid of her. Whats happened about her tax situation? Starmer is the best of a pitiful crew but who else is there. I am hoping that with someone strong at the helm conservatives might build a good opposition, Reform is too flaky, cannot see them lasting. Farage got us out of Europe and then resigned. I think he just likes the chase. Who will wi}} work with them ? No wonder so many don’t vote. We need a strong leader with personality, good communication skills, but there is no one.

Have a look at Al Carns. If he can climb Everest in four days, he should have the stamina.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Carns

MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 08:16:15

MartavTaurus

We need someone less arrogant too.

In his speech Starmer implied voters were angry that changes weren't happening fast enough for them. Err no, people don't actually like those changes he's made/making!
So they look elsewhere!

So who would you like to be running the country?

sixandahalf Tue 12-May-26 08:16:06

Since when did a PM become like the X factor?

Perhaps we might as well go the whole hog and get Alisha Dixon to choose the next one.

It's ridiculous.

MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 08:15:09

Luckygirl3

The Labour rebels are playing into the hands of Reform and making it seem more important than it is. Why can they not see this?
Fine to use the local election results as a reason to push Starmer in the direction of pursuing Labour policies, but to let Reform believe they have the power to topple prime ministers is a massive tactical error.

My MP is firmly behind him still. She says she isn’t going to do Farages bidding.

MartavTaurus Tue 12-May-26 08:13:49

We need someone less arrogant too.

In his speech Starmer implied voters were angry that changes weren't happening fast enough for them. Err no, people don't actually like those changes he's made/making!
So they look elsewhere!

Allsorts Tue 12-May-26 07:33:38

Agree with Kadinski, however he still doesn't listen, but can you imagine Angela Rayner taking over, thats what she is after along with her cronies. We would be finished then. He should get rid of her. Whats happened about her tax situation? Starmer is the best of a pitiful crew but who else is there. I am hoping that with someone strong at the helm conservatives might build a good opposition, Reform is too flaky, cannot see them lasting. Farage got us out of Europe and then resigned. I think he just likes the chase. Who will wi}} work with them ? No wonder so many don’t vote. We need a strong leader with personality, good communication skills, but there is no one.

Luckygirl3 Tue 12-May-26 07:25:22

The Labour rebels are playing into the hands of Reform and making it seem more important than it is. Why can they not see this?
Fine to use the local election results as a reason to push Starmer in the direction of pursuing Labour policies, but to let Reform believe they have the power to topple prime ministers is a massive tactical error.