Starmer’s Speech today.

Basgetti Why is it relevant whether or not JPB123 is a new poster?

JPB123

It’s a very sad and upsetting time.Why do none of the current cabinet appear to be competent.I would not pay them with washers! They all pretend to know what they’re talking about.Do they think we are stupid? We can see through them and it’s a great shame that they have not come up to scratch.Becoming an MP is easy enough,but running the country,none of them are equipped.

Are you a new poster by any chance?, JPB124

It’s a very sad and upsetting time.Why do none of the current cabinet appear to be competent.I would not pay them with washers! They all pretend to know what they’re talking about.Do they think we are stupid? We can see through them and it’s a great shame that they have not come up to scratch.Becoming an MP is easy enough,but running the country,none of them are equipped.

Jeremy Hunt was Chancellor. What experience did he have of finance?

Mollygo

Sacking RR will make little difference since the civil servants behind the scenes will still be there.

If she is just a tool oif her civil servants then she undoubtedly should go.

I find the way governments of all parties blame their civil servants for everything they do that goes wrong despicable and also a confession of monumental incompetence on their own behalf. If Ministers are considered safe to be allowed to lead ministries they should be people who can deal with recalcitrant civil servants

M0nica

Kitty55

I agree. Please let someone who is worthy of leading this country step forward. Someone who will put the working people first.

The vast majority of the population are 'the working people.' There are very few people of working age in this country who are not dependent on a weekly or monthly pay cheue and who would not find themselves in trouble if it even stopped for a month.

Roughly half of the UK population is in work as of May 2026; in fact very slightly less than half.

The very slight majority of the population who are not in work should not be disregarded at the expense of those who are.

Kitty55

I agree. Please let someone who is worthy of leading this country step forward. Someone who will put the working people first.

The vast majority of the population are 'the working people.' There are very few people of working age in this country who are not dependent on a weekly or monthly pay cheue and who would not find themselves in trouble if it even stopped for a month.

Sacking RR will make little difference since the civil servants behind the scenes will still be there.

Sacking Rachel Reeves will make no difference whatsoever to the economy. All economists who are 'acceptable' to the establishment are trained on the Neoliberal free market theories which are responsible for the state the UK economy is in now.

Rearranging the deck chairs won't stop the ship sinking.

icanhandthemback

Delene100

AGAA4

I didn't vote Labour but this is a bad day for the country. The Tories destroyed themselves in a similar way.
This enables the mini Trump, Farage, to destroy our country even more.
People do want better but Brexit, the Pandemic and now a war in Iran is costing us dearly.
I don't think a new prime minister will magically reverse this. It will make things worse but so much damage has been done to Starmer that I doubt he will be able to carry on as PM.

I agree with you but if Starmer manages to stay, he must sack Rachel Reeves. She is also responsible for the state the country is in.

I agree with both of you. I feel that getting rid of Starmer at this juncture is a terrible idea with the current international system. I think we are going to get another round of the Tory Party who tore themselves apart with the in-fighting between the right wing and moderates. A party has to be united and it seems that the Tories and Labour suffer with the same problem in that their members cannot agree with each other.
I think RR has made some awful mistakes but it worries me that a more left wing Government who throw money at every problem will also be a big mistake. It is all just a mess.

I agree.

He needs a better team around him, including his advisers.
I sometimes wonder if they are working against him!

WithNobsOnIt

Marg75

I was going to mention all the things he said that made me livid but I'll just say that the arrogance of the man is unreal.

Also heard on Political TV progs is discussions that some Commentators think he is deluded.

I've been out and only just catching up.

Do you mean Trump? I think most of us are agreed on that!
But, unfortunately, that is up to the citizens of the USA, not much we can do.

WithNobsOnIt

How about Sharon Graham as the next PM.

She is currently leader of Unite. But seems to have a real understanding of what this Country needs in terms of policies for the
industrialization the country and getting people back into work.

She still has old genuine Socialist roots. Unlike Starmer.

Is she an MP?

Kitty55

I agree. Please let someone who is worthy of leading this country step forward. Someone who will put the working people first.

The country needs working people.

But there is far more to being a Prime Minister than just looking after one sector of society.

MaizieD

Casdon

Basgetti

Barbour jackets are really stiff and uncomfortable.

Was so disappointed when I was gifted one. Thought it would be great for walking in the rain but just couldn’t get on with it. Still pristine in the cupboard.

They do wear in quite quickly, and go soft on the seams and creases, and round the pockets if you stuff your gloves, the dog lead, bits of string and such like in them. After a few waxings though, they take on a unique aroma , and if they are also dirty they will stand up on their own. It’s very easy to spot the townies.

They also don't protect you from the cold. You have to wear several layers under them in cold weather (yes, I had a Barbour once and would never buy one again).

It is usual to wear a gilet or body warmer under the jacket in colder weather. Barbour do their own. It’s sensible because it can then be used in all weathers. My cousin works on open ferry boats and wears a Barbour body warmer most of the year and only puts the jacket on in severe weather. He is a hardy soul.

Basgetti

Barbour jackets are really stiff and uncomfortable.

Was so disappointed when I was gifted one. Thought it would be great for walking in the rain but just couldn’t get on with it. Still pristine in the cupboard.

That’s because it needs wearing in. The newer ones are nowhere near as stiff as they were years ago.

I agree. Please let someone who is worthy of leading this country step forward. Someone who will put the working people first.

There was a line in a recent Simpsons episode which reminded me of Starmer. When pressed the authority character replied " I promise I'll think about talking about possibly doing something about it"
Time to go, Starmer

How about Sharon Graham as the next PM.

She is currently leader of Unite. But seems to have a real understanding of what this Country needs in terms of policies for the
industrialization the country and getting people back into work.

She still has old genuine Socialist roots. Unlike Starmer.

MayBee70

Well at least he won’t be using that money and security to go to America and support Trump like Truss has done.

Or multi millionaire Tony Blair swanning all over the world…

Marg75

I was going to mention all the things he said that made me livid but I'll just say that the arrogance of the man is unreal.

Also heard on Political TV progs is discussions that some Commentators think he is deluded.

Well at least he won’t be using that money and security to go to America and support Trump like Truss has done.

A government cannot possibly be expected to adhere to everything in their manifesto. They are not clairvoyants, they cannot see into the future and know what events they may need to deal with.

For example the Ukraine War has shown how many countries would be unable to defen themselves if attacked as Ukraine was and budgets must be adjusted to allow for higher expenditure on defence. Covid is another unexpected that knocked sideways, governments world wide, then there was the 2008 financial crisis,

Governments write manifestos with the best of intettions but, as in ourordinary lives, unexpcted events can mean we have rto completelely reorganise our lives.

I think any incoming party will have problems getting Britain out of the quagmire, until they start putting people in key titled positions with the appropriate education, experience and knowledge base.
What credentials do you need as a political adviser, because it doesn’t appear to be good advice, if recent events are to go by.
So now when the arrogant KS finally goes, despite making a total hash of the job, we as a country will still be paying for his security, a car and driver, not to mention an ongoing wage and fantastic pension no doubt including his statutory pension.
Roll on the day when it is written in law, that the manifesto promises that a party was elected by must be adhered to. NO MORE LIES

Delene100

AGAA4

I didn't vote Labour but this is a bad day for the country. The Tories destroyed themselves in a similar way.
This enables the mini Trump, Farage, to destroy our country even more.
People do want better but Brexit, the Pandemic and now a war in Iran is costing us dearly.
I don't think a new prime minister will magically reverse this. It will make things worse but so much damage has been done to Starmer that I doubt he will be able to carry on as PM.

I agree with you but if Starmer manages to stay, he must sack Rachel Reeves. She is also responsible for the state the country is in.

I agree with both of you. I feel that getting rid of Starmer at this juncture is a terrible idea with the current international system. I think we are going to get another round of the Tory Party who tore themselves apart with the in-fighting between the right wing and moderates. A party has to be united and it seems that the Tories and Labour suffer with the same problem in that their members cannot agree with each other.
I think RR has made some awful mistakes but it worries me that a more left wing Government who throw money at every problem will also be a big mistake. It is all just a mess.

AGAA4

I didn't vote Labour but this is a bad day for the country. The Tories destroyed themselves in a similar way.
This enables the mini Trump, Farage, to destroy our country even more.
People do want better but Brexit, the Pandemic and now a war in Iran is costing us dearly.
I don't think a new prime minister will magically reverse this. It will make things worse but so much damage has been done to Starmer that I doubt he will be able to carry on as PM.

I agree with you but if Starmer manages to stay, he must sack Rachel Reeves. She is also responsible for the state the country is in.