Starmer’s Speech today.

Allira

sixandahalf

Very rude to correct a spelling error. How deepy unpleasant a couple of you are, really. Still if it makes you feel good.

The person I refer to supposedly ran a beauty business. It never got off the ground but somehow she managed to claim a lot of money. Unscrupulous indeed.

I'm not surprised a beauty business did not get off the ground during Covid. It is a business that requires close contact with clients and obviously that would have been impossible at that time. It's not the type of business where anyone could work remotely from home.

Perhaps that person had given up a job, sunk all their savings into setting up the business and otherwise might have lost everything without furlough, even their home.
Furlough would not have paid a fortune but perhaps enough to stop her ending up living on the streets?

Who knows? If we do not know, we should not be judgemental.

A business starting during covid, or without evidence of prior activity, wouldn't have been eligible for state support. Even if it had been active for a while it may not have qualified.

A former poster on Gnet who was self employed, and had been for some years, was caught by the eligibility rules for support and got nothing.

Casdon

I sincerely hope that people don’t think for a minute that furlough schemes during Covid explain or mitigate 14 years of government that decimated the country. Governments all over Europe did the same during Covid, including socialist and coalitions, it wasn’t exactly a massive UK innovation.

Absolutely. No doubt any party in power would have implemented furlough. There was no choice.

sixandahalf

Very rude to correct a spelling error. How deepy unpleasant a couple of you are, really. Still if it makes you feel good.

The person I refer to supposedly ran a beauty business. It never got off the ground but somehow she managed to claim a lot of money. Unscrupulous indeed.

I'm not surprised a beauty business did not get off the ground during Covid. It is a business that requires close contact with clients and obviously that would have been impossible at that time. It's not the type of business where anyone could work remotely from home.

Perhaps that person had given up a job, sunk all their savings into setting up the business and otherwise might have lost everything without furlough, even their home.
Furlough would not have paid a fortune but perhaps enough to stop her ending up living on the streets?

Who knows? If we do not know, we should not be judgemental.

sixandahalf

Have you seen those " take one, leave one" iniatives for coats and school uniforms.

The fact that they are needed is a disgrace. I expect some of them are fairly cheap.

🤔

Have you seen the price of school uniforms? Some state schools, even in more deprived areas, insist on the right uniform, correctly worn, certain items only available from a particular supplier. Add to that sports wear and equipment, the correct shoes etc.
No wonder schools/PTAs operate secondhand stalls and it is nothing new; it has been happening for years.

twaddle

Allira

twaddle

Primrose53

Casdon

Primrose53

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

Barbour jackets are designed to withstand mud and rain. My brother is outside in all weathers beating for pheasant shoots, metal detecting, walking, gardening etc and his decades old Barbour jacket is still as good as new.

😝 that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all morning.

No need to be sarcastic. It’s the truth. Barbour jackets are expensive because they last and wear well. Maybe Primark is more your style. 😝

I would have thought any "man of the people" would be proud to wear Primark!

I would have thought any "man of the people" would be proud to wear Primark!

Why?

Classic Barbour jackets are made in England.

Primark jackets are made in China.

But plenty of men and women of the people do wear Primark - and the stores employ people living in the country and paying British taxes.

Just pointing out that perhaps a man of the people might want to support British industry over Chinese imports.

The poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge: One of those short furlows.

Samuel Taylor Coleridge born 1772 died 1834

Perhaps you could apologise to sixandahalf.

Are you GNHQ? 😲

Mollygo 😁

eazybee Not all devices show red squiggly lines. All mistakes are typos or because this device has a mind of its own and autocorrect changes my correct spelling and grammar to an incorrect word at random.

Good thing I checked - it had changed squiggly to snuggly.

No, apart from Pedant’s corner, do let’s keep picking on spelling mistakes. It takes attention away from the more serious matters in hand.😄

AGAA4

This is going a bit awry over spelling but I think it's better not to pick people up on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. Most of us make mistakes sometimes. We're only human.

Furthermore, Spellcheck often changes things so no red wiggly lines to alert you. I am normally commenting whilst in a hurry so I don't have time to proofread properly and anyway, 9 times out of 10, my eye/brain sees what I thinks I wrote.
Let's be kinder about misspelling and grammar mistakes.

This is going a bit awry over spelling but I think it's better not to pick people up on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. Most of us make mistakes sometimes. We're only human.

With regard to spelling, do people ignore the wiggly red lines that indicate mistakes?

MartavTaurus Actually, very important to correct the spelling of such a major concept being discussed here.

Except that it is you who is incorrect.

Furlow v Furlough

The Oxford English Dictionary shows that while furlough is more common nowadays, both forms are correct.

The poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge: One of those short furlows.

Fanny Burney: You could not refuse to her request the Week's furlow.

Perhaps you could apologise to sixandahalf.

It is fine to attack other peoples points of view as long as you keep it within the guidelines. It is not fine to say that people are deeply unpleasant, that is an insult.

sixandahalf

Very rude to correct a spelling error. How deepy unpleasant a couple of you are, really. Still if it makes you feel good.

The person I refer to supposedly ran a beauty business. It never got off the ground but somehow she managed to claim a lot of money. Unscrupulous indeed.

Deeply unpleasant could apply to quite a few on here, just not the ones you are meaning!

The Tory government didn't give furlough out of the goodness of their hearts they had to do it. They couldn't let families starve where the wage earners couldn't go out to work.
Many people did work during the pandemic so furlough wasn't paid to all.

The schemes here were far more generous than some other countries. As soon as we were allowed to travel again we went to Corfu for a much needed holiday. When we chatted to local businesses they could not believe how much help we got. Loads of businesses had closed down and others were just hanging on. They got about 6 weeks support and that was it. It was then down to relatives to support them. We were so lucky here.

There was fraud in claiming payment during covid because claimants were taken on trust, under the misapprehension that in a time of crisis no-one would cheat, and money was made available too readily and without evidence of need.

sundowngirl

Spot on Grannygravy13. I can’t even begin to imagine how we would have managed if Labour had been in government during covid. Look at how they have destroyed businesses in the short time they’ve been in power

QE wasn't an innovation. You actually have Labour to thank for first using it during the global financial crisis to rescue failing banks. Without it an awful lot of you would have found your bank accounts completely empty.

It is a prime example of the ability of a state with a sovereign currency to create money when needed. I didn't notice moans about hyperinflation at the time... people were just grateful for the help (and some were grateful for the opportunity to scam money from a lax government)

I have every sympathy with genuine refugees like those from Ukraine etc. Why would a genuine refugee throw their passports and ID papers into the sea? This is the main reason the country has voted for Reform to rid us of all these people arriving on boats.
Starmer has made 17 U turns since being in office. It's obvious now that he hasn't got a clue about how to run this country. He has no integrity as any other person making 17 mistakes in their time in employment would resign or be sacked.
IMO he's the worst PM this country has ever had.

sixandahalf

It's not unsubtantiated but obviously I can't give out details here.

Me neither.😥

Casdon

I sincerely hope that people don’t think for a minute that furlough schemes during Covid explain or mitigate 14 years of government that decimated the country. Governments all over Europe did the same during Covid, including socialist and coalitions, it wasn’t exactly a massive UK innovation.

No Casdon of course not.

Just pointing out that furlough helped and saved many businesses and families, as a counter balance to a poster upthread referring to unscrupulous business claims…

I sincerely hope that people don’t think for a minute that furlough schemes during Covid explain or mitigate 14 years of government that decimated the country. Governments all over Europe did the same during Covid, including socialist and coalitions, it wasn’t exactly a massive UK innovation.

Both my DD1 and SiL run their own separate businesses. With three young children they were very grateful for furlough.
Even more grateful for the stamp duty relief which meant they could still move to a new area during covid.
Things are not so rosey these days under Labour, but they're managing.

I have had my spellings and grammar corrected on GN, no big deal 🤷‍♀️

I often post whilst doing/listening/watching something else, haven’t proof read before hitting post message

sixandahalf

Very rude to correct a spelling error. How deepy unpleasant a couple of you are, really. Still if it makes you feel good.

The person I refer to supposedly ran a beauty business. It never got off the ground but somehow she managed to claim a lot of money. Unscrupulous indeed.

Beauty businesses, Hairdressers, Barbers were hit really hard during the lockdowns.

If they were running a business that was struggling to get off of the ground I can see why it didn’t take off during the pandemic.

I assume you have access to their accounts…