King Charles - job well done

It would be an admission of guilt,

Yes possibly, I hadn't thought of that. Although he could say he just thought it best for the Royal Family and the country if he removed himself.

It would be seen as an admission of guilt though, surely? I think that is why he hasn’t done it.

I agree eazybee it might also demonstrate a smidgen of self awareness.

It would be better if he renounced his position himself, thus retaining a small portion of dignity. Everything else has been removed from him.

Andrew would need to be convicted of something before he could be wiped off the succession. It would be good to see him.gone.

Here is an update on the line of succession issue, it looks like police investigations need to be completed before action is taken, which does seem reasonable.
commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10370/

Allira

nanna8

Good luck with that one. The British monarchy will remain. Just as well Andrew isn’t the immediate heir,though.

He needs to be removed from the line of succession.

I agree Allira. Whilst it is extremely unlikely it could ever get down to him, he shouldn't even be a remote possibility. Would removing him also remove his daughters I wonder? I have nothing against them but wouldn't be concerned either way.
It's interesting to note that Archie and Lilibet are 6th and 7th in line, which actually seems daft given they don't even live here and will have no experience of Royal life and associated duties.

nanna8

Good luck with that one. The British monarchy will remain. Just as well Andrew isn’t the immediate heir,though.

He needs to be removed from the line of succession.

Anniebach

It’s amazing that you know what the royal family know

A representative of Republic, perhaps.
We had one whose posts were pure propaganda, not discussion points, on here previously.

Samwam

nanna8

Just one look at some of the world’s Presidents is enough to put me off. Starting with the US of A. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

A parliamentary president not an executive president in charge of the state like Trump. A parliamentary president will have a limited role, democratic from top to bottom.

It is broken and can't be fixed. Above the law unaccountable. What did they know for many years about Andrew and covered it up, we are asking on Saturday What did you know?

This is just your opinion Samwam, which is no more or less valid than anybody else’s. Writing as though your opinion is fact will not help to convince others.

I've always felt a bit sorry for him, shovelled down the publuc school/armed services route which it was clear did not suit him. Then expected to marry the chosen one whom he did not love. Could he have said No? ... I guess so, but not easy.

He seemed to enjoy his time in the Royal Navy, mostly away from public gaze and, by accounts that I have heard, was a very good and popular officer and commanding officer; also a helicopter pilot.

I think that school was probably the wrong choice for him and as for the arranged marriage, well, I will say no more, except to say it was sad for both.

However, the Royal Family has moved on from arranged marriages mpnow.

On goodness, it certainly doesn't! However, I don't think covering for Andrew can be put at the Kings door as it was undoubtedly the late Queen who, for whatever reasons, did cover for Andrew. To expose him would have caused all sorts of problems , so perhaps she just felt too old, ill and weary for the inevitable fall out (know the feeling sometimes!!) and left it to Charles to deal with. Which he has! Not an enviable task!

The Andrew scenario must be awful for them all though. I sometimes think how I might feel if someone told me my brother had behaved like this. Doesn't bear thinking about.

Good luck with that one. The British monarchy will remain. Just as well Andrew isn’t the immediate heir,though.

A lot of families have their black sheep and the RF is no different, which doesn't mean the whole family is tarred. As for cover ups! Jimmy Seville comes to mind, as do many others including Peter Mandelson. What DID happen to that phone? Ummmm! Should ALL members of the government lose their positions for this particular cover up? Obviously not. I would much rather stay with the system we have, than have some ambitious, probably former politician whose loyalty to this country is at best suspect.

nanna8

Just one look at some of the world’s Presidents is enough to put me off. Starting with the US of A. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

A parliamentary president not an executive president in charge of the state like Trump. A parliamentary president will have a limited role, democratic from top to bottom.

It is broken and can't be fixed. Above the law unaccountable. What did they know for many years about Andrew and covered it up, we are asking on Saturday What did you know?

Just one look at some of the world’s Presidents is enough to put me off. Starting with the US of A. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

It’s amazing that you know what the royal family know

I said that the hundred year span of Charles William George will be old men when become king not the ages they are now.

The presidents such as Trump quoted are like I explained, not be the type of president we would have, ours would be a parliamentary republic similar to Ireland, what we have now only democratic from top to bottom.

The monarchy does get involved in politics vets legislation that affects interests and lobbying, he does not allow people who own their house to buy the land it sits on, in the Isle of Scilly which unfair, and he is exempted from environmental laws etc. The monarchy is the most expensive in Europe £500 million compared to £5 million the president of Ireland. Also the royals spend our money like water on themselves for many trips when not doing the few engagements they do which if you look on their list they don't do much.

That's all from me. I know a few like the monarchy, polling shows it's not as popular now.

Also What did they know about Andrew they are not telling as yet but would have known.

Wrong'un

Whatever one's views about the monarchy I think most people will agree that Charles did a good job in the US.
I've always felt a bit sorry for him, shovelled down the publuc school/armed services route which it was clear did not suit him. Then expected to marry the chosen one whom he did not love. Could he have said No? ... I guess so, but not easy.
He has espoused and initiated some good causes and been an advocate for the environment before that became the in thing.
I suppose I think he is doing his best ... he can do no more.
The Andrew payoff sticks in the throat though ... don't know if that was his idea.
I am happier with things as they stand than an elected president... the mind boggles ... but it all comes down to the person. William does not look as though he is shaping up to be a wrongful so far.

Samwam

They not above politics, Kings Consent King vets legislation that affects his interests, there is lobbying MPs. Shouldn't be allowed.

He would not stand to be questioned, as they only agree before hand what questions they'll answer. So wouldn't stand up and answer straight.

As for continuity who wants three King's one after the other for next 100 years from one family. Charles Work shy William and George boring.

I know nothing regarding the RF apart from what I read on GN. They're not featured in my reading of The Economist. However, I doubt anyone here knows either, I'm certain NDA exist.

It's best not to be overly critical. Republican or not.

Iam64

Attacking a 12 year old boy, borninto a hereditary role he might not have chosen if given a choice, hits a new low imo.

I confess to republican leanings in my younger days. The longer I live, the greater my understanding of the significance of the monarchy.
I also increasingly dislike sneering, cold hearted comments

I also increasingly dislike sneering, cold hearted comments

Nasty, aren't they.

They also show a lack of knowledge and understanding of how a Constitutional Monarchy works and the respective rôles of Head of State and Government.

Attacking a 12 year old boy, borninto a hereditary role he might not have chosen if given a choice, hits a new low imo.

I confess to republican leanings in my younger days. The longer I live, the greater my understanding of the significance of the monarchy.
I also increasingly dislike sneering, cold hearted comments