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Heavy vehicles are to blame.

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Mollygo Sat 25-Apr-26 17:23:47

Chocolatelovinggran

Hmm David. I wonder if you have considered the possibility that some of us " Luddites "are driving ( possibly old) petrol powered cars, not because we are " happy polluting the environment" but because we do not have funds to replace it with a more modern, expensive, EV.

When EVs first came up on GN, I felt the same. We were lectured on a regular basis, but though we wanted to help the environment, EV’s were way out of our price range.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 25-Apr-26 16:59:15

Hmm David. I wonder if you have considered the possibility that some of us " Luddites "are driving ( possibly old) petrol powered cars, not because we are " happy polluting the environment" but because we do not have funds to replace it with a more modern, expensive, EV.

NotSpaghetti Sat 25-Apr-26 06:53:08

As the technology grows and time passes I expect EVs will get cheaper.

What we need to make this happen is a way of charging them at home if you only have on street parking.

In my daughter's town they won't let her cut a gutter, won't let her have a cable vover and won't put in lamp-post or kerb charging.

This is what needs to change.

It is certainly lorries though making potholes on the whole. If the additional weight of EVs is 100kg and a person weighs 70 to 90kg it's not as much as it sounds really.

David49 Sat 25-Apr-26 06:31:49

It's is accepted by most that its Trucks that cause the most damage to roads damage by trucks is at least 1000 times more than passenger cars, some estimates are much higher. Because modern roads are built strong enough to carry trucks there is no affect at all by cars.. a typical EVis about 100kg heavier than the equivalent than the petrol equavalent, a similar hybrid is the same weight.

Currently EVs are not for everyone, if you are happy polluting the environment carry on driving your petrol car. Most EVs are charged at home using off peak wind power, ours runs on 95% off peak power and costs about £5 for 240 miles that 1/10 of petrol cost.
Just like all progress the luddites are on the loosing side, EVs are the future for passenger cars and light commercial

Mollygo Fri 24-Apr-26 20:59:42

David49

You are biased in your opinion

As are you.
The councillor didn’t mention lorries or trucks or even buses. They are obviously heavier and cause the most damage. You only have to look at the road by a bus stop, or where lorries pull up to do deliveries.

EVs are heavier, and saying more people should get them also ignores the fact that they are expensive and beyond the reach of many people.

David49 Fri 24-Apr-26 20:51:56

You are biased in your opinion, it's well known the vehicles that cause the most damage are trucks, by a factor of about 10000 not EVs or any other large car or van all new cars are larger and heavier than previous models because safety standards require a certain strength in a crash.

Comparing similar models, a Ford Mondeo weighs around 100kgs less than a similar Tesla Model 3, popular hybrids weigh roughly the same as the equivalent EV.

Another statistic the hate EV brigade repeat is that EVs catch fire, some do but a petrol or diesel car is 100 times more likely to catch fire

Astitchintime Fri 24-Apr-26 19:18:18

Scary isn’t it…….some of them simply do not have a clue!

Mollygo Fri 24-Apr-26 18:53:27

I’ve just watched a councillor blame heavier vehicles for potholes . . .
Sounded reasonable, but . . .
Then she said we need to get more people using electric vehicles.

Even Google will tell you

electric cars (EVs) are generally heavier than equivalent petrol or diesel vehicles, often by 200–500kg

I won’t be voting for her party.