Excellent post, Cossy at 14.51.
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Excellent post, Cossy at 14.51.
Bit of an oxymoron. Life =14 years.
Life sentences should be exactly that. That poor girl is the one with the life sentence. I suppose in 14 years he will be able to pull the wool over someone's eyes and be out on the streets. The same streets that are supposed to be safer for women.
A just sentence for an appalling crime, but we need life to mean life
Let’s hope the three disgusting asylum seekers who raped the girl on Brighton beach and filmed themselves doing it, get similar sentences
For those who haven't Googled Kate Nevens, here is a nugget of what she'd like to see if Scottish Greens got elected:
Kate Nevens - who is standing on the Edinburgh and Lothians East regional list - says she is "keen to live in a Scotland" with no jails.
Scottish Green co-leader Gillian Mackay, backing "fundamental reform", said prisons would still required in the "short term" to house violent offenders.
In a video posted on Instagram, external, she described herself as a prison "abolitionist" who wants "to see the complete abolition" of the prison system in Scotland.
Nevens said: "Prisons are not safe, they're violent, they're poor for people's health and wellbeing, particularly if you're a woman. And they fail to support rehabilitation.
She called for work to tackle the the "root causes" of crime - citing trauma and inequality.
Doubling down on her views in a later post, Nevens said she was "still keen to live in a Scotland with no prisons".
twaddle
Frankly, it seems irrelevant - it won't ever happen I'm just appalled by the actual crime and that this vile creature lived amongst us for so long.
It's not the first time he has assaulted a woman although this was far worse.
Apparently he sexually assaulted a woman in the street because 'he felt frustrated'.
Perhaps chemical castration might help with that.
What a disgusting specimen he is.
A minimum sentence of 14 years is nothing although, of course, he may not be released after that time.
Why are these short sentences known as 'life sentences'.
If he says he regrets his past, has reformed and will live a good life in future, members of a Parole Board may believe him and he could be released on licence.
Life should mean life. He has destroyed this woman's life.
Frankly, it seems irrelevant - it won't ever happen I'm just appalled by the actual crime and that this vile creature lived amongst us for so long.
twaddle
TerriBull
Google Scottish Green candidate Kate Nevens on that
Thanks for the info. I don't suppose she's in the majority.
I've no idea how much support she would have with her Green colleagues. I just wonder how anyone would rationalise such a stance when such an act of deliberate wickedness such as this appalling rape has been committed. How do they imagine the victim would feel or in the case of Sarah Everard, her family, if the perpetrator was not punished? I wonder what the Kate Nevens of this world would do with such people, I personally don't believe all criminals can be rehabilitated and I also think the worst type of crime, not shoplifters, but murderers, rapists etc should lose their liberty for what they inflict on their victim.
He's obviously a disgusting human being. Moreover, he's not very bright. He thought his victim was a Muslim and apparently asked where her hijab was when he was shown a picture of her. So what turned him into such a racist? One who thought it was perfectly OK to rape Muslim women?
Locked away for the safety of women! Not kicked away… On the other hand 🧐🤨
I agree, this is an awful crime and I believe this man will always be a danger to women, so for the safety of woman he should be kicked away for a very very long time.
I don’t think prison should be abolished, but I do think prisons and sentencing needs review and reform.
What I’d like to see is better and more probation officers (not private companies either), all following the same training and more standardised procedures.
I would like to see more residential drug and alcohol units and those convicted of crimes around these areas, ie low level dealing, possession etc put into these units for complete addiction rehab.
I’d also not imprison any non violent crimes. I’d like to see reparation sentences and community services (or unpaid work as it seems to be called now)
I’d like to see all proven proceeds of crime confiscated and large fines imposed on those who have made a co good living from crime.
I’d like to see everyone who’s been involved in child abuse, sexual or violent or fatalities locked away forever.
I’d put more prison officers into prisons and I’d want to see every prisoner working for a large proportion of their days, with decent accommodation and food and earning any privileges, which would automatically be removed should they abuse the system or break the rules.
I’d make outside in the open air and exercise compulsory and a massive crackdown on the alcohol and drugs which seems to be smuggled in on a daily basis.
Our prison and sentencing system just doesn’t work and too many criminals re-offend at all levels of crime.
People would be alive today had violent criminals not been released.
TerriBull
Google Scottish Green candidate Kate Nevens on that
Thanks for the info. I don't suppose she's in the majority.
Google Scottish Green candidate Kate Nevens on that
TerriBull
An appalling crime. I agree GG lets hope this monster spends the rest of his life behind bars. It would be shocking to think he could come out after a decade or so. I'd also ask those who think that prisons should be abolished what they'd do with individuals such as this person and Wayne Couzens.
I've never come across anybody who thinks prisons should be abolished.
An appalling crime. I agree GG lets hope this monster spends the rest of his life behind bars. It would be shocking to think he could come out after a decade or so. I'd also ask those who think that prisons should be abolished what they'd do with individuals such as this person and Wayne Couzens.
This was an awful assault and rape, life should mean life!
... has been given a life sentence with a minimum of 14 years.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn4v93pgwmnt
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