Men in their late 70 s running countries

Are there doctors who can actually determine if someone is a narciccist psychopathic demented maniac during an evaluation appointment? No, I dont think so. Psychopaths are the craftiest manipulators of them all and are experts at faking sanity so that wouldnt work.

Well, here must be psychiatrists who can diagnose these MH illnesses otherwise we would not know about them. 🤔

Macaydia

Are there doctors who can actually determine if someone is a narciccist psychopathic demented maniac during an evaluation appointment? No, I dont think so. Psychopaths are the craftiest manipulators of them all and are experts at faking sanity so that wouldnt work.

I still think there needs to be a peoples committee united in the world that acts in a more definitive way then people protesting to each other (since leaders take no notice). Our government models no longer work in the name of peace. Single egos are ruining life as we know it. Laws put in place to protect us are just conveniently broken by the lunatic leaders.

I don’t like the sound of that.

A vote of no confidence in a PM in the UK would not lead to a general election as far as I know, it would lead to a leadership contest for his replacement, unless it was a coalition government, in which case one of the parties involved could force an election by withdrawing their support.

While don't have a mechanism for removing a PM gone rogue, we do have a vote of no confidence mechanism, usually but not neccessarily called for by the Leader of the Opposition.

If someone's bad enough (eg Trump-like), their party would lose & PM asks monarch to dissolve parliament & then it's a General Election.

Malaysia was talking about a ' peoples committee' to do this.

In the UK, their MPs.

And who would these people be who would decide whether a leader was incompetent and how would we ensure their competence.

grumppa

Perhaps the key is that there should be a mechanism for getting rid of a leaders who prove themselves unfit to govern, whether by misconduct, incompetence or mental ill health, between scheduled elections. To be fair to the Conservatives, they are quite good at this; where they so often fail is in choosing a successor.

Oh, so true, Grumpa. It always begins hopeful and then becomes more of the same. Let's hope the change in Hungary is more of NOT the same.

The oldest PM we had in my lifetime was Jim Callaghan, who was 66 or 67 when he lost the 1979 election. He was still in good health and continued as an MP after he lost the election, but was physically drained by the Winter of Discontent and knew his time was up.

Perhaps the key is that there should be a mechanism for getting rid of a leaders who prove themselves unfit to govern, whether by misconduct, incompetence or mental ill health, between scheduled elections. To be fair to the Conservatives, they are quite good at this; where they so often fail is in choosing a successor.

Galaxy

I would also say that what you do in your forties and fifties obviously impacts your later health, Trump to me has never looked like someone who has taken great care of his health, but again I don't want people excluded on those grounds. To repeat a well worn saying democracy is the worst form of government except for all the other forms of government we have tried. There will always be flaws in the system.

There will always be room for improvement

Are there doctors who can actually determine if someone is a narciccist psychopathic demented maniac during an evaluation appointment? No, I dont think so. Psychopaths are the craftiest manipulators of them all and are experts at faking sanity so that wouldnt work.

I still think there needs to be a peoples committee united in the world that acts in a more definitive way then people protesting to each other (since leaders take no notice). Our government models no longer work in the name of peace. Single egos are ruining life as we know it. Laws put in place to protect us are just conveniently broken by the lunatic leaders.

Galaxy

No i meant I don't want people excluded who didn't look after their health. I would be extremely suspicious of people asking for that now when it didn't happen previously.

Nothing would ever improve if there was no change though, would it? Putting aside Biden and Trump, I think it is important that every country has a leader who is not suffering from dementia or a serious mental illness which impairs their judgement.

No thanks.

The world needs a committee elected by the non-pilitically positioned public of each nation and to agree on a business plan for moving humanity forward and a team of Auditors to fire those leaders who break rules of the order.

Nobody seemed to bother when Biden
‘ with dementia’ was running the show!
Shameful that his wife allowed him to give those incoherent speeches.

Casdon

Yes, that was exactly my thoughts too M0nica, however fit we are for our age a punishing schedule with late hours and flights etc would take it out of anybody, because sadly we no longer have the stamina. That’s why Trump has to use a buggy to get round the golf course, even though he is the bestest, most talented and wonderful golfer the world has ever seen.

And cheats !

Galaxy

And not going to war is often a terrible thing to do.

I disagree with war. Imagine if at 5 years old we taught children that when they saw a classmate doing something that upset them, war is the answer.

Maybe a perfect democractic election does not have an unstoppable length of employment term but would have a rule in place to have an election to possibly oust a rabid leader just in case they lose their mind before their employment contract is up, similar to what the young King of Bhutan implemented when he said, I will be your king only as long as you want me to be.

Is that the answer? Does the problem stem from too much power untouchable by the general public? A lack of emergency rules in place that could be implemented by the general public?

If someone in a leadership posotion blatantly causes chaos and turmoil and murder, the other world leaders should be able to hold a trial and convict them of straying from a world law of peace. I can think of more than a handful that would be fired immediatly and wouldn't the world be a safer place?

A ruler should not violate the best interests of humanity in all countries and neither should humans but I have no idea how to stop passionate religious fanatics.

Allira

*Men in their late 70 s running countries*

I misread that at first as:
Men in their late 70s ruining countries.

Now I will read the whole thread and think about it.

Many a true word…etc 🤣🤣

Hitler was 51 in 1940. Only saying"………….!

No i meant I don't want people excluded who didn't look after their health. I would be extremely suspicious of people asking for that now when it didn't happen previously.

Men in their late 70 s running countries

I misread that at first as:
Men in their late 70s ruining countries.

Now I will read the whole thread and think about it.

Galaxy, are you saying that cognitive tests should not be required for those standing for leadership positions, or applied when there are concerns about somebody’s fitness for office?

I would also say that what you do in your forties and fifties obviously impacts your later health, Trump to me has never looked like someone who has taken great care of his health, but again I don't want people excluded on those grounds. To repeat a well worn saying democracy is the worst form of government except for all the other forms of government we have tried. There will always be flaws in the system.