What Is Melania's Strategy?

I sincerely hope that the abusers and those who facilitated them do get held to account, and the victims eventually feel they have some justice. Sadly I’m not at all convinced that this will happen

Dickens

Smileless2012

I can't say I hate Trump Dickens but I do agree with everything you have posted.

Well - I suppose the hate is perhaps more for what he represents, he is after all himself a product of the environment in which he was raised.

Hate the sin. Love the sinner.

bmacca 7.22 and imaround 11.42.

That maybe the case- I'm just waiting for news to break to explain Melania's timing and motivation. It's about the victims not Melania- but really hope whatever comes out leads to greater accountability of perpetrators.

That is probably it, bmacca. It is just so random, especially considering they have done everything they can to make us forget about the Epstein files.

I hope I am alive to see this all blown open for the world. We need to see every bit of it so we can hold these men and women accountable to the victims.

They vote for them in the same way as women voted for the misogyny of the Democrats ( who placed male prisoners with female prisoners). I have also just looked up the list of allegations ( rape and sexual assault) against Clinton, I knew of some of them but like Trump he is a deeply unpleasant man. Sorry but mostly I don't believe this is concern for women, because as soon as names other than Trump are mentioned they are either supported ( Mandelsson at the time) or ignored. And yes I understand that Trump is president and clinton is not, but this isn't the first time a predatory man had been president.

The suggestion on X is that Ungaro has given an interview to El Pais which could be published today. It would appear that her motivation is around custody of her son, so I guess she’s maybe hoping pressure to expose information about the Trumps will assist her with that

Smileless2012

I can't say I hate Trump Dickens but I do agree with everything you have posted.

Well - I suppose the hate is perhaps more for what he represents, he is after all himself a product of the environment in which he was raised.

Back to Melania's random press conference.

I dug around and the latest theory is that, when the book on the Yorks was first published, there was information that said Melania had sex with Epstein a year before she met Trump. Melania's lawyers contacted the publisher and the book was changed for all future publications. Now, this Ungaro woman is reaching out to Melania on social media and threatening to spill the beans about something.

I could see those 2 things being the catalyst for the statement, which seems random to me at least, because I haven't read the book and don't use X. It begs the question, if she had stayed silent, would this had slipped away in the next news cycle?

I think something big is coming, but since the entire group of them are so unpredictable, it could be nothing as well!

I think this could all be avoided by releasing the Epstein files, but what do I know?

I also hate Trump, but not for this reason alone. I also agree with everything Dickens said.

I don't quite understand how being vocal about these men (all of them) , and women, being held accountable is not being concerned about the victims. The more we speak up, the more likely it is that happens. And the more likely it is that it stops happening in the future.

I must have missed something in the thread that led is to this.

Dickens 👏👏👏

I was going to say before I read your post that I do not hate anyone, that I find their views hateful.

However, they are loathsome, misogynistic, arrogant and the very worst type of male person.
The Bible was written by men. Jesus did not preach misogyny, he treated women with respect. Probably more of his followers and disciples were women but those records have been "lost" or dismissed.

How did they get to be in charge? Why do some women vote for them and even appear to idolise them?

I can't say I hate Trump Dickens but I do agree with everything you have posted.

Galaxy

As I said and I will say it again. Most of this noise is about hatred of Trump rather than concern for the victims, that was demonstrated very clearly in the mandelsson debacle. I know exactly who Trump is in terms of allegations, but I also know that the information released on Clinton makes me exceedingly uncomfortable, as does the lack of concern at the time about his predatory behaviour whilst in office.

Well I do hate Trump. I hate what he represents, the male hierarchy at its worst. I hate men (and that includes Clinton) who have a sense of entitlement that allows them to prey on women and young girls for their own dissipated sexual satisfaction, and who having used and abused them and treated them like disposable objects, then legislate as 'Christians' against abortion so that the parents of a 10 year old girl I've just read about who was beaten and raped and later complained of peculiar stomach discomfort had to take her out of state to get an abortion because they fear for her mental health. These 'Christians', these men (and yes, some women) who think it's more important that a 10 year old traumatised girl is forced to give birth rather than consider what the experience might do to her, on top of the violence and rape. It makes me sick that Trump sits their with his 'faith minister' praying over him and all his close staff hovering around him, talking to him in hushed reverential tones.

Under his leadership, the manosphere has expanded... these misogynistic men are now increasingly using the Bible to back up their belief that women are born to be subservient to their men.

So yes, I do hate Trump, and Hegseth, and that university professor who believes women should not be allowed in further education and all those other Rambo-men, who've come crawling out of the woodwork under him. And I make no apology for it either.

I am concerned about the victims too, and I don’t want to minimise that. I just think that the dodgy business transactions which resulted in obscene wealth for a few ‘privileged’ people worldwide, and the links with corrupt regimes that were part of that network, is also of massive concern.

I wonder what Trump is up to whilst his wife is getting all the attention?

Yesterday was, possibly, exactly the right time for Melania to step in with a surprise Epstein diversion, the content of which is actually quite scant.

The victims are the concern for me casdon, I am clear about that. And something about women's rights being used as a political football ( I mean generally not necessarily on this thread).
I wish I could predict the lottery results as accurately as I can predict dodgy men Oreo .

Galaxy

As I said and I will say it again. Most of this noise is about hatred of Trump rather than concern for the victims, that was demonstrated very clearly in the mandelsson debacle. I know exactly who Trump is in terms of allegations, but I also know that the information released on Clinton makes me exceedingly uncomfortable, as does the lack of concern at the time about his predatory behaviour whilst in office.

As I said, and I’ll say it again too Galaxy, all we have to go on the is the actual evidence released so far, and the number of mentions and redactions related to individuals. Say what you will about people being driven by a hatred of Trump, or of Clinton for that matter, based on what they have read or believe, that doesn’t take away from what is hard fact, known information, and what is known to be lies. I certainly would not minimise the appalling treatment of the girls involved, and the complete lack of justice in the way the law has been operated, but I think you are looking at this in a one dimensional way if you think that the victims are the only concern here.

Galaxy

There absolutely was smileless, it was along the lines of ' he is the type if tricky character who we be able to deal with Trump'.

😂
Everyone should read the original thread, I just have and had forgotten that I was going to job share with him ( reluctantly as I don’t like sharing).
It’s called Lord Peter Mandelson appointed as Ambassador to the USA.
Galaxy made an amazing prediction on the first page and it was
50/50 posters who thought it a good choice and those who didn’t.

That's a new one for me bmacca, thanks.

A woman who is a previous friend of Melania has recently been detained and deported by ICE, following an acrimonious divorce and custody battle with one of Trump’s friends. She is threatening to “expose the truth” about them. Whatever that might be? I suspect Melania is trying to get ahead of what may come out from this woman, as well as emails that Wolff says he has

Likely playing the long game. I'd imagine she has some part of his money tied down for herself and her son - as long as she 'behaves' whilst he is POTUS.

I thought she did very well considering English is not her first language. She came across as genuine and confident and I believe she has finally had enough of all the rumours and speculation.

She is smart enough to know that if there is any evidence out there of her having anything other than social acquaintance with Epstein it will be out there and will be exposed.

Sorry lots of typos!

There absolutely was smileless, it was along the lines of ' he is the type if tricky character who we be able to deal with Trump'.

As I said and I will say it again. Most of this noise is about hatred of Trump rather than concern for the victims, that was demonstrated very clearly in the mandelsson debacle. I know exactly who Trump is in terms of allegations, but I also know that the information released on Clinton makes me exceedingly uncomfortable, as does the lack of concern at the time about his predatory behaviour whilst in office.

I don't remember a lot of cheering here when Mandelson was appointed Galaxy, quite the opposite in fact and criticism of Trump has nothing to do with hatred.