Why is Israel bombing Lebanon?

Allira

^Why should Iran stop supplying Hezbollah?^

The other question is "Why does Iran support terrorism in the region? Is it perpetuating conflict?"
"Who is the controlling bully here?"

That is a really good question Allira.
Iran imho has a lot to worry about with regard to national security/defence, perhaps more than Israel as has been seen with the recent war, with Saudi and other ME nations hostile to Iran backing the war waged by Israel and the US. We could suppose that Iran in view of this tried to develop nuclear weapons in order to avoid such a war, and not - as many say - to use nukes against Israel.
So, are Hezbollah a proxy to fight Israel sporadically or are they just as much about defending Iran from Israel.
Historically Iran has never had much time for Arab nations, going to war with Iraq in the 1980s, so this partnership with Arab factions against Israel smacks of something other than just causing conflicts with Israel. And are Hezbollah reacting to attacks from Israel or responding to attacks on them??
My guess is it is 50/50.
Of course Iran has sponsored Hezbollah and Hamas and the regime is an abomination, but has Israel been an aggressor rather than the victim.
Agains I would guess is 50/50.

Iran supports Hezbollah because it hates Israel. It doesn't pretend otherwise. Yes, it perpetuates conflict and it's fairly obvious that'e why it supports Hezbollah.

Israel just has to accept it and defend itself as well as it can (with US aid). It has reasonable relationships with Jordan, Egypt and even Saudi. Warfare won't solve anything. Israel can't kill every Iranian, Hezbollah, Houthi and Hamas member. More importantly, it can't destroy the ideology, so its only solution is containment.

I worded my question badly. It should have been "What reason does Iran have to stop supplying Hezbollah?" As far as I can see, there is no reason. Iran hates Israel just as much as it ever has - probably more so now (with some reason).

Why should Iran stop supplying Hezbollah?

The other question is "Why does Iran support terrorism in the region? Is it perpetuating conflict?"
"Who is the controlling bully here?"

That's a big "if"! Why should Iran stop supplying Hezbollah? I doubt if the Iranian leadership is going to take much notice of bully-boy Trump or Netanyahu. Hezbollah is not going to be defeated by brute force.

twaddle

Do you honestly think that what Israel is doing will make any difference?

It will if Iran stops supplying Hezbollah, what's the point of having a Lebanese government if it can't control terrorism.

Do you honestly think that what Israel is doing will make any difference?

Grantanow

The Lebanese is too weak to disarm Hezbollah and too many Lebanese support it. Hezbollah adopts the same method as Hamas as hiding in the general population thus there are civilian deaths when Israel attacks Hezbollah which restarted attacks on Israel as a proxy for the murderous Iranian theocracy.

The Lebanese cant control Hezbollah because it is armed by Iran, Lebanon tries to have a moderate government but is constantly undermined by Iran.

It is almost as if human beings are taking an extreme turn so that there are two species instead of one. The species that murders families and and the species that loves families. What do you call a civil war that involves the whole earth void of any borders or nations? That is what I see occuring.

The majority of citizens of every nation are so fed up with media hype and senseless killings. It is insanity in charge. They call this civilized world but this is not civilized and this road leads to extinction, for sure. I say, regime change.....of the entire planet.

Cossy

Whatever your view, whatever the actual truth is, the only thing I see ahead of us now is more death, more destruction, more economic instability, more displaced people.

Frankly, at times, the human race disgusts me, it just doesn’t matter anymore who does what, who started what, what matters is who can finish it.

In the meantime, never mind about the mid-terms, the Epstein files, any poor Jewish hostages who might have somehow miraculously still be alive, Palestinians with nothing, being starved in their own country, Ukrainians still being bombed, not to mention people’s sons and daughters in all and any armed forces, whoever they are, whatever their nationality or colour, putting their lives on the line every day, for what? Liars and crooks and madmen who seemingly don’t give a fig about their own citizens let alone those in other countries.

I’ve seen and read utterly appalling acts and language from world leaders, whose greed and corruption is shocking beyond belief!

Cossy, your words should be repeated everywhere. Madmen have hijacked our planet. It has got to stop.

MayBee70

I wasn’t watching it properly as I was packing but someone interviewed on tv this morning was constantly being accused of anti semitism when, as he pointed out, he was criticising Israel’s actions and that of it’s leader. I think it’s wrong that Israel can hide behind that whilst committing war crimes. Imo

Yes, and I actually think that the world up until quite recently, was too reticent for fear of being accused of anti-semitism throughout the past 80 years when it should have brought notice to the continual illegal land grab and the treatment of the Palestinians whose care was under Israel’s jurisdiction.

I think it would have been to everyone’s benefit if criticism was made public especially Israel’s

I agree MayBee.

I wasn’t watching it properly as I was packing but someone interviewed on tv this morning was constantly being accused of anti semitism when, as he pointed out, he was criticising Israel’s actions and that of it’s leader. I think it’s wrong that Israel can hide behind that whilst committing war crimes. Imo

Pity

Cossy

Whatever your view, whatever the actual truth is, the only thing I see ahead of us now is more death, more destruction, more economic instability, more displaced people.

Frankly, at times, the human race disgusts me, it just doesn’t matter anymore who does what, who started what, what matters is who can finish it.

In the meantime, never mind about the mid-terms, the Epstein files, any poor Jewish hostages who might have somehow miraculously still be alive, Palestinians with nothing, being starved in their own country, Ukrainians still being bombed, not to mention people’s sons and daughters in all and any armed forces, whoever they are, whatever their nationality or colour, putting their lives on the line every day, for what? Liars and crooks and madmen who seemingly don’t give a fig about their own citizens let alone those in other countries.

I’ve seen and read utterly appalling acts and language from world leaders, whose greed and corruption is shocking beyond belief!

You are so right. It’s a mad, mad world we are living in.
Put we can’t just rub along!

Excuse typos!

AGAA4

That's why I mentioned Hansard. The government are discussing this issue Allira.

Yes, that's wat I meant, sorry, should have made that clear thst I saw you had posted that.

Of course, there are things which cannot be revealed in the interests of national security.

The Lebanese is too weak to disarm Hezbollah and too many Lebanese support it. Hezbollah adopts the same method as Hamas as hiding in the general population thus there are civilian deaths when Israel attacks Hezbollah which restarted attacks on Israel as a proxy for the murderous Iranian theocracy.

paddyann54

Someone needs to stop Netanyahu and his vileIDF NOW
There will be no peace in the Middle East with Zionists in charge in Israel
As for Trump he thinks he’s John Wayne in every old war film in the past …sadly he thinks because he’s American he can do as he pleases….seems he can..nobody has the guts to stand up against him

Going slightly off-piste: Trump and Wayne are surely America's most famous Draft Dodgers.

Ah, but there's Patriotism for you!

And as for Nettyahoo bombing the living daylights out of Lebanon.......he's 110% certain that he'll always have America's backing. But what if they elect a sane president next time?

That's why I mentioned Hansard. The government are discussing this issue Allira.

Samwam

It is a fact that was reported by an independent journalist that Britain flew spy planes collecting intel for Isreal who then bomb Gaza and now Lebanon fact.

That journalist is reporting his interpretation of why the drones were flown over Gaza and Lebanon.
His information sounds confused.

I'd rather wait for the truth than listen to possibly dangerous conspiracy theories.

Samwam

It is a fact that was reported by an independent journalist that Britain flew spy planes collecting intel for Isreal who then bomb Gaza and now Lebanon fact.

The UK has a 6 billion trade deal with Israel and can't afford to lose the money.
It is true that reconnaissance planes were flown over Gaza during the war.
Hansard. Discussions ongoing about UK involvement.

It is a fact that was reported by an independent journalist that Britain flew spy planes collecting intel for Isreal who then bomb Gaza and now Lebanon fact.

sixandahalf

It's disgusting. Bombing children. Shameful.

Still if you are happy chatting about drones, crack on.

Perhaps read the thread and see why drones were mentioned?

The report by some freelance person mentioned in the thread is not factually correct, but such erroneous reports by ill-informed people with their own agenda could bring danger to us all.

Large drones can drop bombs, smaller ones can be used to drop other missiles. They have been used in the Ukrainian conflict, now seemingly forgotten. They can also be used for reconnaissance, obviously.

They are not like the ones operated by amateurs everywhere taking nice pictures of the scenery.

petra

sixandahalf

It's disgusting. Bombing children. Shameful.

Still if you are happy chatting about drones, crack on.

Says you who started a thread with bombing in the title.
What did you expect to read, the price of eggs in Tesco’s 🤷‍♀️

And your thoughts are?

To order children to be hanged shows Israel and Iran to be barbaric.
Neither has the moral high ground.
Ruthless sadists.