Should Keir Starmer ban Kanye West from coming to the UK?

Well not we'll.

No obviously I think individuals are free to respond to Kanye west however they like, within the law. I am not sure that I think he should have been banned. I am deeply concerned about antisemitism in this country, I will be honest and say that I don't think Kanye West is at all at the forefront of that, we'll I know he isnt.

LauraNorderr

Another thought…
Should somebody suffering from an illness that causes them to make vile comments and stir up hatred against certain groups be awarded celebrity status with a huge influence on our youth.

Absolutely not.

Galaxy

No it is a serious question. I have a friend with schizophrenia he talks absolute nonsense when he is ill. Should allowances be made for that, because he wouldn't be able to get through life if we don't.

Yes, I think that allowances should be made about legal responsibilities, but individuals can't be expected to know what's going on, and can't really be blamed if they react to what he says to them. Anyway, what should happen and the legal situation is not the same thing, and a private citizen is not the same as someone filling a stadium with goodness knows how many followers.

Jaxjacky

Kanye said he had been misdiagnosed as bipolar Galaxy and had autism, later changed to ‘some aspects of autism’. I can’t find any glimpse of medical verification, seems to be what suits on the occasion.

Kanye West has been waging hatred against Jews for the past 3 years. If he had such an issue, why was he not taking medication and why the fixation on Jews? I find this behaviour and stance particularly disturbing coming from a black man whose people have suffered over the years. Has he not read how Hitler treated Jessie Owens, the black athlete? Does he not know that Hitler hated blacks, Gypsies, Gays and other minorities. If Hitler had won the war, blacks would probably have been earmarked for extermination too or put back into slavery?

It's a legal matter at the Home Secretary's discretion and now he has been banned.
I thought Wes Streeting's comments were on the money (tell us what you really think, Wes !!). I hope I don't misrepresent Wes but I understood him to think that the West apologies were insincere and self-serving. He has " apologised" before and recanted apparently.
West's express anti-semitism is disgusting and unacceptable.
More than anything he is a massive idiot. Adolf Hitler was not known for his fondness for any minorities including people with mental health problems. Who do you think would have been next on his list , Kanye?
I have an issue with " cancelling" generally I must say and I am conflicted. Wishing no offence whatsoever to our Jewish citizens, we are banning somebody because of what he thinks however mad and disgusting that may be. It is a point of view to state that KW should have been allowed to perform and it was up to British Citizens NOT to buy tickets to listen to this massive **.

Definately.

Kanye West has been banned

Of course he should be banned and now has been.

What I’d have rather liked to see, would have been him coming and performing, but a mass boycott of the concert - maybe 1-2% of seats filled.
I doubt that would ever have happened, though.

Kanye said he had been misdiagnosed as bipolar Galaxy and had autism, later changed to ‘some aspects of autism’. I can’t find any glimpse of medical verification, seems to be what suits on the occasion.

No it is a serious question. I have a friend with schizophrenia he talks absolute nonsense when he is ill. Should allowances be made for that, because he wouldn't be able to get through life if we don't.

It has been widely reported that he has either bi polar and or autism, now of course that could be a lie but presumably that is the case for any well known person with a disability.

Galaxy

So should John Davidson ( the man with tourettes at the baftas) not be allowed to travel to other countries?

Me?

IMO he should be allowed, yes. It's a totally different situation. Are you arguing both sides here, or is that a serious question?

Who confirmed he had a disability?

But we don't make allowances based on the length of someone's diagnosis. We make them as soon as someone has a disability/ illness.

Did West have a disability for decades?

He does travel though, he has some funny stories about airports as you can imagine. I just do think it is interesting the allowances made for some disabilities ( which I think are correct allowances) and then not for others. I think Kanye west is a tosser but I am afraid I also think this is a very easy thing to do, whereas tackling the antisemitism that has been in full view is much trickier.

I think it’s the right decision in Kanye West’s case as we have more than enough antisemitic numpties already here.Also he’s an influencer.

Galaxy

So should John Davidson ( the man with tourettes at the baftas) not be allowed to travel to other countries?

I would think that he wouldn’t dare to, as he may well flip the bird to airport security staff or tell them to f off. It wouldn’t be worth the hassle for him.

Allira

Dickens

mae13

Is this not the mysoginist who paraded his current wife/mistress/girlfriend nude at some awards ceremony?

Why did she agree to that? I can only imagine that she either thought such a stunt would further her career or, behind closed doors, Kanyou-Believe-This-Guy is the kind of character who readily settles any difference of opinion using his fists and feet.

Bi-polar? Yeah, sure......

Is this not the mysoginist who paraded his current wife/mistress/girlfriend nude at some awards ceremony?

Not knowing anything about her, I lazily asked chatGPT - apparently her near-nudity is part of the expression of her Art. She's an 'architectural designer' and does hold a bachelor's and master's degree in architecture from the University of Melbourne.

She's now Head of Architecture for West's 'brand'.

All I can think is - what a waste of degrees.

She must be an exhibitionist and probably richer than many architects who sit at a drawing board (sorry, computer!) all day.
But at what cost? Her self-respect.

Apparently she is 'A performance artist' too, whatever that means. I think it means showing off.

Ps

I remember seeing some poor woman walking down our main street naked many years ago. Someone ran into the police station to tell them and a young policeman came, took off his jacket, put it round her and gently escorted her to the police station where they called for medical assistance.

Dickens

mae13

Is this not the mysoginist who paraded his current wife/mistress/girlfriend nude at some awards ceremony?

Why did she agree to that? I can only imagine that she either thought such a stunt would further her career or, behind closed doors, Kanyou-Believe-This-Guy is the kind of character who readily settles any difference of opinion using his fists and feet.

Bi-polar? Yeah, sure......

Is this not the mysoginist who paraded his current wife/mistress/girlfriend nude at some awards ceremony?

Not knowing anything about her, I lazily asked chatGPT - apparently her near-nudity is part of the expression of her Art. She's an 'architectural designer' and does hold a bachelor's and master's degree in architecture from the University of Melbourne.

She's now Head of Architecture for West's 'brand'.

All I can think is - what a waste of degrees.

She must be an exhibitionist and probably richer than many architects who sit at a drawing board (sorry, computer!) all day.
But at what cost? Her self-respect.

Apparently she is 'A performance artist' too, whatever that means. I think it means showing off.

So should John Davidson ( the man with tourettes at the baftas) not be allowed to travel to other countries?

I assume their relationship has an 'unusual' dynamic. Not one I would want any part of, and not something I think should be paraded in public, but if it is consensual it's up to them. I don't see what her qualifications have to do with it, or how it would further her career.

Who knows why people do what they do where things like this are concerned, but I really don't think outsiders can possibly draw conclusions unless they are very familiar with the people involved.

His antisemitism, OTOH, may or may not be his personal opinion, but he has no legal right to share it with the rest of us, and I am pleased the PM refused him entry to the UK. As the festival organisers were prepared to go along with it until the ban I have no sympathy with them either, although I do feel sorry for the 'little people' who will have been expecting to get some work out of it (bar staff, security etc).

mae13

Is this not the mysoginist who paraded his current wife/mistress/girlfriend nude at some awards ceremony?

Why did she agree to that? I can only imagine that she either thought such a stunt would further her career or, behind closed doors, Kanyou-Believe-This-Guy is the kind of character who readily settles any difference of opinion using his fists and feet.

Bi-polar? Yeah, sure......

Is this not the mysoginist who paraded his current wife/mistress/girlfriend nude at some awards ceremony?

Not knowing anything about her, I lazily asked chatGPT - apparently her near-nudity is part of the expression of her Art. She's an 'architectural designer' and does hold a bachelor's and master's degree in architecture from the University of Melbourne.

She's now Head of Architecture for West's 'brand'.

All I can think is - what a waste of degrees.