Stronger links with Europe? KS

Elegran

We don't appear to be pleading to be let back into the heart of the club, merely holding talks about mutual co-operation on some aspects of our trading relations with the EU, and on combined defence against future military attacks. Both are sensible moves given our geographical and social position so close to the European mainland.

We should be Europeans before we are British. This, because a European defence bloc stands as a counter to the USA, China, and Russia.

We don't appear to be pleading to be let back into the heart of the club, merely holding talks about mutual co-operation on some aspects of our trading relations with the EU, and on combined defence against future military attacks. Both are sensible moves given our geographical and social position so close to the European mainland.

It was the American electorate who voted Trump for President. I feel safer with European electorates including British voters----despite the rise of Farage.

We definitely need strong ties with Europe. However we need control of our borders. It was the free flow of people that created the Brexit vote.

David49

Currently we are a little canoe paddling around the edges of our much larger neighbour pleading please let is back in, we don't like your rules but we want the bits we like. They are saying tough, when you accept our rules we will think about it.

It's us that has to change they aren't going to give anything away.

We should never ever have left and I do hope those, like the hypocrite Farage, are very happy with themselves!

As an MEP and one of our representatives, he should have have supported those who voted for him, and did the job he was paid to do, fighting our corner and attempting to bring about change.

Mmmmm sounds very familiar?

Currently we are a little canoe paddling around the edges of our much larger neighbour pleading please let is back in, we don't like your rules but we want the bits we like. They are saying tough, when you accept our rules we will think about it.

It's us that has to change they aren't going to give anything away.

We were part of Europe back in 1952 when I could write my full address in all my books. 🙂 ???we all were and will be forever in Europe. But not the EU club.

GardenofEngland

We are still part of Europe. Brexit, leaving the EU happened. We need to have good relations with all the countries in Europe for our security and defence, but that does not mean to do that we have to rejoin the EU.

We were part of Europe back in 1952 when I could write my full address in all my books. 🙂

And talking about not being around forever, Pamela Bondi has just been fired.

We are still part of Europe. Brexit, leaving the EU happened. We need to have good relations with all the countries in Europe for our security and defence, but that does not mean to do that we have to rejoin the EU.

Delene100

Brexit shouldn't have happened. We need to rejoin Europe if the EU will have us back. I am sure the terms won't be as favourable though.

You appear to have got away with it!

Any minute you will be told we are still part of Europe.

Brexit shouldn't have happened. We need to rejoin Europe if the EU will have us back. I am sure the terms won't be as favourable though.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=axYQRpVhHyQ

Phil Moorhouse's analysis of Starmer's speech.

Not a fan of Starmer but at least he's kept us out of another war unlike Tony Blair.
Trump is a very foolish man who has gone in way over his head without even thinking of the consequences let alone apparently having an objective. Now it's caused such chaos worldwide he wants out and can't understand why other countries ie the UK didn't jump right in to help him out.
He's also worried about the mid terms. He's telling us now that Hormuz is our problem when it's only the actions of the US and Israel that have caused the problem in the first place.

Cossy

I think the salient point is “we”, (the UK and other leaders) don’t have to agree with allies or their leaders politics, we simply have to have agreements in place and be able to debate and negotiate sensibly and have agreed “rules” in place.

Trump won’t be around forever, but I fear the damage he is doing will far outlive his terms in office.

Am hoping beyond hope that Trumps highly damaging and openly disgraceful terms in office will send a message to peoples around the world who might be tempted to vote for a far right populist leader.
Especially those thinking of voting for Trumps mate here in the UK, Farage.
We have seen the writing on the wall and though Farage might not be as epic in the damage he could inflict, be very sure that damage would be inflicted.

I think the salient point is “we”, (the UK and other leaders) don’t have to agree with allies or their leaders politics, we simply have to have agreements in place and be able to debate and negotiate sensibly and have agreed “rules” in place.

Trump won’t be around forever, but I fear the damage he is doing will far outlive his terms in office.

The President is in charge of defence in France, not the government.

Galaxy

So if France gets a 'far right' government will they no longer be your allies, what about Italy, there is quite a resurgence of these parties in Europe, what will be the plan then.

By that time we will quite likely have a right wing government in the UK, if Starmer is deposed as Labour leader, a Reform/Tory coalition is entirely possible.
At least as likely as a right wing French government

So if France gets a 'far right' government will they no longer be your allies, what about Italy, there is quite a resurgence of these parties in Europe, what will be the plan then.

nanna8

Godawful. Waste of time and said absolutely nothing !

You can look forward to Pauline Hanson sweeping the board at the next election - maybe.
Stranger things have happened!

I’m referring to our PM by the way,not yours. I think yours actually made a good statement.

Godawful. Waste of time and said absolutely nothing !

nanna8

Keir Starmer needs to move more closely towards Europe because his relationship with Trump is not the best. Trump was very insulting towards him and he can’t just ignore that . I don’t like either of them and just hope and pray better leaders might emerge soon. But I won’t hold my breath!

What did you think about your PM’s statement?

Keir Starmer needs to move more closely towards Europe because his relationship with Trump is not the best. Trump was very insulting towards him and he can’t just ignore that . I don’t like either of them and just hope and pray better leaders might emerge soon. But I won’t hold my breath!

Seems to me that for too long the "Special Relationship" was POTUS said JUMP and we said "How High?" So glad Starmer isn't playing that game with the ignorant fool currently in charge of the United States.