China

MaggsMcG

Surely thats what the British did many years ago, went into poorer countries ( including China) and sort of took over. Its the natural order of things for history to move around the more successful countries especially when they have over stretched themselves. Maybe its just a natural thing. Think of the Romans, and the Greeks how much influence they had hundreds of years ago. Then the British and the US. Maybe its just the way civilisation works. I'm not too worried about it, I'm not afraid as such. Only of the madman in charge of USA at the moment. He's more likely to set of WW3 than any other country.

Yes but the difference is we interfered in local politics tried to impose our standards. With the best of intentions for sure, that didn't work particularly in Africa, where an omnipotent chief ruling the population was the traditional government. Even now we only support countries with a good democratic record. China doesnt care they will deal with the most despotic dictators and pay in whatever currency wherever they want,

We try to stick by international laws and decent moral standards, China ignores them all, and WE LET THEM

Yes, I hope the King straightens him out in April.

Surely thats what the British did many years ago, went into poorer countries ( including China) and sort of took over. Its the natural order of things for history to move around the more successful countries especially when they have over stretched themselves. Maybe its just a natural thing. Think of the Romans, and the Greeks how much influence they had hundreds of years ago. Then the British and the US. Maybe its just the way civilisation works. I'm not too worried about it, I'm not afraid as such. Only of the madman in charge of USA at the moment. He's more likely to set of WW3 than any other country.

David49, you said this so perfectly, so true: `"We are swallowing the bait hook, line and sinker"`

China already holds US land, corporations and Us debt, Canadian realestate, oil, gas, farmland, London buildings, UK airports, energy, infrastructure.

Xi is a dormant volcano.

And they are extremely good at controlling them.
Those who step out of line are dealt with very quickly. Pretty scary to have an opinion that goes against the Communist party.

Sanchez is no comparison to Xi who doesnt have to face elections and is effectively in power until the communist party decide to change him.
China doesnt have the swings in government that every democracy has, they can plan long term, together with an obedient workforce can achieve their goals. They don't need an aggressive military all the army needs to do is control the population.

My friend lives in New Zealand and I was visiting her. I commented on the number of Chinese living in her area which hadn’t been evident during my previous visit! Her comment was interesting,
“ Yes, interestingly I cannot buy land in China!” Said so much in my mind!

At the risk of sounding racist. Years ago. China used to be described as the Yellow Peril. Probably because they were so many of them.

The Chinese people just seem to act like robots and still do not have any real freedom of speech

I think AI is our biggest worry and not the Chinese.

....and don't forget Mussolini. Terrifically talented tyrants!

Frenchgalinspain

Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain & Prime Minister Zi of China have been renovating their countries for uncountable years.

Prime Minister Zi is an exemplary rail track designer and Spain has the AVE high speed throughout most of Spain. Also, in return, Spain had provided Prime Minister Zi with ultra modernist Windmills that produce high energy and solar energy which Spain is known for ..

And President Zi is not in favour of what Trump has been doing and thus, avoids this type of aggressive and chaotic behaviour patterns as does President Sánchez.

Both are 100% against the disasterous violence, horrendous military aggression against children and women and both seek to avoid getting involved with Trump.

Oh not forgetting Hitler loved dogs

Prime Minister Zi is an exemplary rail track designer

@ Frenchgalinspain I understand Hitler made the trains run on time too....

Great rail track designer Xi maybe, however he presides over a country that executes 8,000 people a year, probably a conservative figure. Personally I'd trade his expertise in railway design for a premier that doesn't approve of state sanctioned murder, lack of free speech and concentration camps with forced labour. Just because he doesn't approve of Trump, not many do, that doesn't make him one of the good guys.

Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain & Prime Minister Zi of China have been renovating their countries for uncountable years.

Prime Minister Zi is an exemplary rail track designer and Spain has the AVE high speed throughout most of Spain. Also, in return, Spain had provided Prime Minister Zi with ultra modernist Windmills that produce high energy and solar energy which Spain is known for ..

And President Zi is not in favour of what Trump has been doing and thus, avoids this type of aggressive and chaotic behaviour patterns as does President Sánchez.

Both are 100% against the disasterous violence, horrendous military aggression against children and women and both seek to avoid getting involved with Trump.

I've never really understood the desire for world dominance, ultimately what does it achieve? It just puts me in mind of the rhetorical "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul" I think a few world leaders of today would do well to ponder on the wisdom of Jesus someone tell that to Mr Trump who I imagine would describe himself as a Christian. Whatever an individual creates here on earth they can never take it with them. So utterly futile, but clearly a hard wired human failing since the beginning of time.

China appears to be anti-Islam so, if it's a battle between the two for world domination, which will succeed?
All through history, there has been one empire after another....people forcing their culture on others (including the Christians).
Will there ever be a time when everyone is content to just confine themselves to their own country?

nanna8

But Starmer loves them - he is a true communist.

We get enough of these insults from Trump. Don't need them flying over from Australia.

Seems to me we have a choice (not) in who eventually rules our country. My Parents were always worried about the threat as they saw it from China & Russia. I think now we have a third force to reckon with! Islam! Any one of the many Arabic states will have the backing of the others when the call comes to all the hidden ones now in our country! As I am too old to live much longer it will be down to my Grandchildren to decide whether they should fight or give in! What will happen, who will win?

Nanna8 is as entitled to their view as anybody else. Other UK leaders have been soundly thrashed on GN. We also spend a lot of time denouncing Trump which is offensive to a lot of people from the USA. Keir Starmer does have a very left wing background and some may not believe he has moved on. That is their right even if others don't agree.

petra

nanna8

But Starmer loves them - he is a true communist.

Do you get some sort of pleasure from insulting our leaders and our military. If so, please refrain as you are offending a lot of members.

It's not just Starmer, the Tories too, we have run down our military below any effective level, EVs use there are more votes in social spending.
In exactly the same way if we reduce the level of Chinese imports, prices will go up, there are more votes in Chinese imports. We are swallowing the bait hook, line and sinker, we are addicted to cheap goods.

I think you only have to look at Hong Kong to see why you don't want China to have such a hold as they have in places where they have invested so much money.

nanna8 Keir Starmer a communist! What absolute BS!

petra

nanna8

But Starmer loves them - he is a true communist.

Do you get some sort of pleasure from insulting our leaders and our military. If so, please refrain as you are offending a lot of members.

Plus, sadly, you are way off beam

RosiesMawagain

petra

If this article wasn’t so serious it could almost be laughable 🤦🏼‍♀️
China is very worried about its falling birth rate
This from a country that forced women to have late term abortions under the one child policy 😥

chinaobservers.eu/less-controllable-bodies-how-chinas-new-population-growth-policy-is-failing/

The fact that they could impose the one child policy itself ought to give @ Aveline and any others who view China’s presence and influence in the world as benevolent, pause for thought.

I would imagine it all depends on your analytical thinking prowess.

nanna8

But Starmer loves them - he is a true communist.

Do you get some sort of pleasure from insulting our leaders and our military. If so, please refrain as you are offending a lot of members.

RosiesMawagain

nanna8

But Starmer loves them - he is a true communist.

What?
I know you live on the other side if the world, but you could not be more wrong.

He's not even close!

Now Albanese - perhaps, nanna8. He's much further left.
Good luck!