Superstitious Idea About Trump

There are other ways to get power. There is nuclear power, hydro power, etc. We have to find ways of storing solar power when the sun isn't out and allow people to get as much solar power as they can without having caps on it like we have.
Yes, it is an illegal war which is abhorrent but it has highlighted yet again how we cannot rely on fossil fuels so there has to be a big push on making homes warmer and funding more renewables so we aren't hit so radically when a power hungry leader goes rogue.

icanhandthemback

Smileless2012

The OP floats the idea in reference to this illegal war that decreasing reliance on oil is "a happy coincidence" GrannyGravy.

You can have empathy for those lost in this terrible war but see something worthwhile coming from it. That is a called the dark cloud’s silver lining. I am sure that most of us would have preferred nobody was killed.

I can see nothing worthwhile coming from this illegal and totally unwarranted war.

The chances that it will lead to less reliance of oil is highly unlikely. Countries will simply look at ways of getting oil out of the Gulf without going through the Straits of Hormuz.

Saudi Arabia has a coastline on both the Gulf and the Red Sea. and also with Oman , which is the other side of the Gulf of Hormuz If pipelines were built across Saudi Arabia to either the Red Sea or Oman they could export through them. All the Gulf states share borders with Saudi, so it should be possible for them to export through the Red Sea and Oman as well.

It will also lead to exploration in other areas. Indonesia is now a major gas exporter, the development of its resurces followed 1973.

I do not underestimate the part that renewables can play in providing clean energy, but wind and sun are not to be relied on.

All that is needed is a winter anticline, holding freezing weather over the UK under clear windless conditions for a week or two, and wind production is down to 5%, and solar panels are less productive despite the sun. Shorter days, lower sun angles result in significantly lower overall output, sometimes just 10% of summer generation. Where do we get power from then?

NannyCI, there is a whole Thread about this issue.
I will try to locate it for you in the morning.
We have not ignored this tragedy.

Smileless2012

The OP floats the idea in reference to this illegal war that decreasing reliance on oil is "a happy coincidence" GrannyGravy.

You can have empathy for those lost in this terrible war but see something worthwhile coming from it. That is a called the dark cloud’s silver lining. I am sure that most of us would have preferred nobody was killed.

The only way to a sure and safe long term fuel supply is nuclear, and even of we used some of the pocket packaged units like those built by Rolls Royce www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-smr-build

When we had the 1973 oil crisis, we were far more dependent on Gulf oil than we are now. It led to a world wide search for other sources of oil, whether in Indonesia, the North Sea or

I think the current crisis will lead to the same again, countries seek to diversify the sources they get their oil and gas from by increasing the search for oil and gas in other provinces. I also think the Gulf states will look to the possibility of building pipelines to Meditteranean ports for transshipment to the rest of the world.

chump is mad because the wind mills as he calls them are infront of his golf resorts
all the thing he does is either money or ego

The OP floats the idea in reference to this illegal war that decreasing reliance on oil is "a happy coincidence" GrannyGravy.

Cossy

My understanding with solar power is that it’s daylight more than sunlight.

I wouldnt say that at all.
From what I know.

NannyC1

Is it worth the 150 children murdered to get better energy supplies. I guess by the lack of empathy from the majority here it appears to be so.

I honestly don’t think anything could be further from the truth.

Not one person here in our Gransnetters community has ever expressed any view towards anyone’s death with anything other than regret and empathy.

My understanding with solar power is that it’s daylight more than sunlight.

Too many flipping iPhone 🤬

NannyC1

Is it worth the 150 children murdered to get better energy supplies. I guess by the lack of empathy from the majority here it appears to be so.

Who has said this ?

We are discussing being less reliant on fossil fuels.

A life lost in war or a terrorist attack is one two many.

Is it worth the 150 children murdered to get better energy supplies. I guess by the lack of empathy from the majority here it appears to be so.

Yes, the technology will continue to improve.
Brill, that you are getting money back GG13.

Solar panels good, provided they are removable ones, otherwise roof damage inevitable, as they do not last as long as a normal roof.
As to heat pumps, until they get the tech sorted they are being taken out by early adopters as useless.

I have a 2tier flush on my toilet, but later homes do not. I am looking at the sinks that fill the cistern with used water. Purifying water takes energy too.

If they standardised smart meters, then these could be put into new builds

MaizieD

If house roofs, warehouse and industrial buildings roofs are used, plus putting them over car parks (as they are at French supermarkets) I don't see why we have to have massive solar farms on green field sites. I think that if the government were a bit more proactive and initiated and financed, or contributed some finance to, the sort of installation which didn't use agricultural land, instead of leaving it 'to the market', we could possibly get this done more effectively.

As someone who lived by wind turbines and solar panels for 20 years which fed into our bank of Ni-Cad batteries you can imagine how long we have banged on about panels on all roofs.
From buying our first ones in the late 80s to the ones on the market the charging capabilities are a world away from then.

We do make already manufacture solar panels in the UK. GB Sol is in Wales, and is linked to Cardiff University. I think there are others too.

Would be great if UK actually started production of solar panels instead of importing from mainly China. And, where are heat pumps produced- guess and you'd be right. Scotland has had solar panels on new builds for a few years.

Interesting

ronib

I expect you use a battery for storage? GG13

Not at the moment, we do get a nice cheque from the national Grid four times a year.

Storage batteries capacity and safety have improved since we had our panels installed, they are on our to do list

I expect you use a battery for storage? GG13

I know the technology for solar energy is improving the efficiency quite rapidly, so newer panels should generate more than older ones.

Here is the latest from the government.
www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-make-plug-in-solar-available-within-months

ronib

Do they work less efficiently on dull and overcast days? Gg13. Logic would suggest so?

We have had solar panels for over 12 years.

They do generate more on bright sunny days, not so much on really hot days. (over approximately 35°)

They are currently generating power despite it being overcast here in the SE.

ronib

Unfortunately the sun and wind are not going to shine and blow to order.
Wave power is also a good alternative source of energy. Green energy has not reached working efficiency without additional use of fossil fuels at the moment .

Running water is another good source. Flour for our bread was ground in mills worked by waterwheels for centuries, but that power can be harnessed for many other uses - making electricity is one use.

10 to 25 percent less hope in my case !! Solar panels in winter produce 10 to 25 per cent of peak capacity. Not very much then? So between 75 and 90 per cent less than in the summer?