Sickening antisemitic attack.

*where the populations have not ‘has’

eazybee

Netanyahu is at least defending his country; which is fighting for survival.
Trump is not.

We have relatives in Israel and I don’t think Netanyahu is making their homeland any safer. In fact the opposite is true. The whole ME is now in flames and the people who live in countries where the populations has historically hated Israel will not forget their dead, there will be generations who will continue to hate and attack Israel even more as a result of this. As the saying goes ‘in the ME we have long memories’.

As Hamas wants to kill all Jews

Netanyahu is at least defending his country; which is fighting for survival.
Trump is not.

ferry23

Strictly speaking, and although not specifically a law, Jews by tradition, give 10% of their income to charity, this is known as Tzedakah.

It is historically associated with Temple times, when farmers gave 10% of their produce to the Levites. (Descendants of Jacob's son Levi).

If it causes hardship to give 10% of income, then food or service is acceptable. In Judaism, charity is not seen as something extra that should be done, but a part of everyday life that is honest and moral.

Being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions - but it seems it's Jews who get attacked for it.

And in my humble opinion, anyone who equates what's going on in the Middle East with ambulances, used and funded by volunteers, being blown to smithereens in Golders Green are as ignorant and bigoted as those who carried out this atrocity.

I agree.
The thing is they don’t think it through they just want to commit atrocities against those they see as supporting the war in Iran. Just as Trump and Netanyahu don’t see the human suffering they cause the terrorists don’t either.
So much hate.

Allira

^Trump and Netanyahu are the perpetrators of these war crimes^

We must not forget the crimes of terrorist groups either who murder innocent people, babies and children too.

Of course not. As I said it is innocent people who suffer.

Strictly speaking, and although not specifically a law, Jews by tradition, give 10% of their income to charity, this is known as Tzedakah.

It is historically associated with Temple times, when farmers gave 10% of their produce to the Levites. (Descendants of Jacob's son Levi).

If it causes hardship to give 10% of income, then food or service is acceptable. In Judaism, charity is not seen as something extra that should be done, but a part of everyday life that is honest and moral.

Being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions - but it seems it's Jews who get attacked for it.

And in my humble opinion, anyone who equates what's going on in the Middle East with ambulances, used and funded by volunteers, being blown to smithereens in Golders Green are as ignorant and bigoted as those who carried out this atrocity.

Trump and Netanyahu are the perpetrators of these war crimes

We must not forget the crimes of terrorist groups either who murder innocent people, babies and children too.

I believe it was an Iranian aligned terrorist group that claimed responsibility for the arson. In which case it would be a revenge attack for what is happening in Iran not Gaza.
And am pretty sure there will be more of this.
Trump and Netanyahu are the perpetrators of these war crimes but as usual innocent people are being targeted.

No, he isn’t. He’s calculating and viscious.

Anniebach

Remembering the attack on Israel 7th October 2023 by Hamas,
Netanyahu is not stupid , mindless

Ok, but exacting revenge on the wrong people.

Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith The Lord.

Remembering the attack on Israel 7th October 2023 by Hamas,
Netanyahu is not stupid , mindless

Basgetti

loopyloo

Are they surprised when there is so much destruction in Gaza?
Am not saying its right but Israel's actions in the Middle East have repercussions.

What has been inflicted on the civilians of Gaza is nothing short of evil.

Anyone with an iota of common sense knows that has nothing whatsoever to do with British volunteer paramedics - who would no doubt not hesitate to treat Palestinian patients - going about their lawful business.

What have they to do with the repugnant Netanyahu?

The “but Gaza” excuse is wearing very thin.

loopyloo

If they believe they are exacting revenge for Gaza (if that is who these perpetrators are) then they are incredibly stupid, mindless and in fact have much in common with Netanyahu.

loopyloo

Are they surprised when there is so much destruction in Gaza?
Am not saying its right but Israel's actions in the Middle East have repercussions.

What has been inflicted on the civilians of Gaza is nothing short of evil.

Anyone with an iota of common sense knows that has nothing whatsoever to do with British volunteer paramedics - who would no doubt not hesitate to treat Palestinian patients - going about their lawful business.

What have they to do with the repugnant Netanyahu?

The “but Gaza” excuse is wearing very thin.

Basgetti

Maremia

The country has rallied round and the ambulances will be replaced by community donations. That's a small victory.
The millennia of hatred between Catholics and Protestants was calmed down due to the Good Friday agreement. Not completely eradicated, I know.
Not the same situation, but can lessons be drawn from any similarities?

Thought I heard on BBC News last night that the Government will be replacing the vehicles?

Perhaps the money raised will go towards the running costs.

I imagine this is run in a similar way to the St John Ambulance Service but on a much smaller, localised way.

For those who ask why - have you ever waited for an NHS ambulance and given in, taking the patient to hospital yourself or even having a kind passerby offering to do so?

AnnieB, why would you say that?

Just going by what a Poster said upthread, Basgetti, that the funding target had been reached. I guess they would know.
But also yes, that was on the BBC.

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Basgetti

The CCTV was very clear.
Yes, they were masked and hooded but I think I would recognise loved ones/good friends from their gait. Hoping someone recognises them and does the right thing.

Indeed.
Somebody knows who these men are.

Maremia

The country has rallied round and the ambulances will be replaced by community donations. That's a small victory.
The millennia of hatred between Catholics and Protestants was calmed down due to the Good Friday agreement. Not completely eradicated, I know.
Not the same situation, but can lessons be drawn from any similarities?

Thought I heard on BBC News last night that the Government will be replacing the vehicles?

The CCTV was very clear.
Yes, they were masked and hooded but I think I would recognise loved ones/good friends from their gait. Hoping someone recognises them and does the right thing.

I'd say us, as just little people with little influence, can best help by getting involved in interfaith groups, becuase these are not a might seem "only for religious people". There were for example in our city publicly advertised open events for the ending of Eid. You engage with people - it's easier for me as my gym is very multi-culural and it's natural to chat. and yes we do talk about what its like to be a woman from other cultures, or how we feel about Iran, because of course most people are decent minded and want just to live well and see their children get on in school.

I am heartened now because I see what I did not used to, that the "Walking home from school" is now not as it tended to be in the past, separated by colour or ethnicity. Some do of course prefer to be with the friends they know from outside school and thats always been the case. (My city has 10.3% ethnically diverse people)

Maremia

I just don't know how SM could be policed. With Musk and X, standards have collapsed.

I asked this by googling to find out what IS in place.

"Police and secret services monitor social media for racist and hate-motivated content using a combination of Open Source Intelligence (OSINT), AI-driven automated monitoring tools, and targeted investigations by specialized units, such as the UK’s National Online Hate Crime Hub.

They generally focus on publicly available information to identify trends, map criminal networks, and intervene before online hate translates into real-world violence.

To see more detail and the original sources, enter as I did into your search engine

"How do police and secret services monitor social media for racist and other hate"

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