Entering the UK- or going to happen now

@ CariadAgain, much as I hate talking about somebody in their absence, Nanna8 chose not to renew her UK passport so how can you (on her behalf) claim that she feels British?

She is thinking "But I AM British .......".

It’s not a case of “happening to be born abroad” unless you subscribe to the Raj mentality( ie that the sun never sets on the British Empire)
If a person chooses to make their life abroad, to emigrate, they can’t have it both ways.
Not without keeping dual nationality and renewing their passport.
Your flights of fantasy are inventive but misleading.

BlueBelle

Cariad you’re getting it all wrong, really do stop, you’re making it up as you go along
This isn’t a rule against anyone, it’s a rule that is keeping us level with the rest of the world
This is worldwide ruling we are now joining in and keeping in tune with the rest of the world

I know, I'm getting confused now!

If you are travelling to and fro regularly perhaps for work or to visit family, you could keep renewing your UK passport.

It's not just Australia, it's other countries too. Many did require an ETA previously but the number has expanded to 8t now.

* [Edited by GNHQ at poster's request to remove misinformation]

85!

You don't lose your British nationality.
You could still apply for a British passport, if it has lapsed, for proof.

A few have had it removed for good reason.

Of course you can feel British wherever you live; it's not something tangible, it's a cultural identity, a feeling, more than residency.

RosiesMawagain

@ CariadAgain, much as I hate talking about somebody in their absence, Nanna8 chose not to renew her UK passport so how can you (on her behalf) claim that she feels British?

She is thinking "But I AM British .......".

It’s not a case of “happening to be born abroad” unless you subscribe to the Raj mentality( ie that the sun never sets on the British Empire)
If a person chooses to make their life abroad, to emigrate, they can’t have it both ways.
Not without keeping dual nationality and renewing their passport.
Your flights of fantasy are inventive but misleading.

Her parents are still British!

I know it's very confusing these days - with different people having different ideas on it - despite the fact we all thought the same previously.

But - as my mother explained to me "I am British, your father is British and therefore that means that you are British".

I checked at one point recently why some people seem to have different definitions and, from memory, about 50% of people have the same definition as I do.

Joanna Lumley was born abroad for instance - but, because of her parents = she is British.

I think I will vote next time - move over horrible Keir.

You cannot pin your gripe about travel on Keir Starmer.

The Nationalities and Borders Act was passed in 2022 by the Tory government.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality_and_Borders_Act_2022

The Electronic Travel Authorisation (United Kingdom) (ETA) is part of that regulation:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Travel_Authorisation_(United_Kingdom)

Carriers to the UK are expected to check that individuals have the appropriate permission to travel, in document or digital form, before they bring them to the UK. Otherwise, they may be liable to a penalty charge.

Having an ETA does not guarantee entry into the UK.

People who are not British citizens are expected to demonstrate their permission to travel by using:

•their digital UK immigration permission (eVisa), if they are resident in the UK;

• their physical vignette sticker or digital eVisa, if they have a visitor or certain other type of visa; or

• their electronic travel authorisation (ETA), if they are visiting the UK and are from a non-visa national country (for example, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, USA or an EU country).

A British dual national travelling on a foreign passport is not supposed to use any of those. They would be ineligible for an ETA, eVisa or immigration permission due to their British citizenship.

Stricter enforcement from 25 February 2026

The Home Office has been advising British dual nationals to travel on a British passport or with a certificate of entitlement for many months. But in practice it hasn’t been strictly enforcing the ETA requirement for non-visa nationals, to allow people time to adjust. Those transitional arrangements will end next [this] month.

From 25 February 2026, the Home Office will be fully applying the ETA requirement. The Home Office is advising British dual citizens to make sure they have a valid UK or Irish passport or certificate of entitlement if they will be travelling on or after that date. If they don’t, they may not be able to board their transport to the UK.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10344/#:~:text=their%20digital%20UK%20immigration%20permission

I wasn’t aware nanna8’sparents were still alive?

Joanna Lumley is an entirely different case.
She was born on 1 May, 1946 in Kashmir, India - (before independence and partition ) to British parents, Thya Beatrice Rose (Weir) and James Rutherford 1946,
Srinagar was not directly administered by the British, but was the summer capital of the Princely State of Jammu and Kashmir, which was under British paramountcy. While not exactly part of British India , it was a "subsidiary alliance" state where Maharaja Hari Singh ruled, subject to British supervision, until the partition in 1947
Her father was a major in the Gurkha Rifles, and she spent most of her early childhood in the Far East where her father was posted.
The Ghurka Rifles were part of the British Army

It should be obvious if you look at the facts that the children of serving army personnel, stationed abroad, are clearly British.
You need to check your facts and think it out again.

Quick check - about 39% of people currently have the same definition of British as I do - ie asking about the parents nationality.

Job done.

Electronic Travel Authorisations are a direct result :

Total Scope: By 25 February 2026, the ETA scheme will be mandatory for citizens of 85 countries and territories.
Key Nationalities: The requirement applies to visitors from the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and all European Union nations (except Ireland).
Cost: £16 per application.
Validity: Valid for multiple journeys over two years.
Exemptions: British and Irish citizens do not need an ETA.
Timeline: The scheme is being rolled out in phases, with full enforcement for all eligible nationalities starting 25 February 2026.

Exemptions: British and Irish citizens do not need an ETA
But you would need to have an in-date passport for overseas travel and re-entry.

I was born abroad, I’m British, my husband was born in Southern Ireland, moved across here to UK at 5, he’s now 70, he’s chosen not to become a British Citizen and still has his Irish passport though he’s a British resident, all of our children can now claim dual nationality and have Irish passports.

You might know what you are on about Cariad but I don’t and it’s not really relevant to this case

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Hope you have a large pot of tea (or coffee) when you wake up, nanna8!
😁

Apart from the fact that 39% is way below a majority of people the question remains “Which people?”
People down the pub? CariadAgain’s friends and family? Sun readers?
Perhaps the FACTS are more useful.
Job not quite done.

CariadAgain

Quick check - about 39% of people currently have the same definition of British as I do - ie asking about the parents nationality.

Job done.

Quick check - about 39% of people currently have the same definition of British as I do - ie asking about the parents nationality.

What 39 % of people think does not make it true.

39% of people might think that unicorns roam the earth, but it doesn't make it true.

OP says she has an Australian passport. To get an Australian passport, you need to prove your Australian citizenship.

She says she can vote in UK elections. If that is true then she must mean she has also retained her British citizenship.

In that case, she has dual citizenship.

Twice I gave posted this link now. Here goes for a third time:

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10344/#:~:text=their%20digital%20UK%20immigration%20permission

From 25 February 2026, the Home Office will be fully applying the ETA requirement. The Home Office is advising British dual citizens to make sure they have a valid UK or Irish passport or certificate of entitlement if they will be travelling on or after that date. If they don’t, they may not be able to board their transport to the UK.

That is what OP has been told and is annoyed about but as I have already explained, it is to do with the changes brought in by the 2022 Nationalities and Borders Act and not a change by the current UK government.

That is what OP has been told and is annoyed about but as I have already explained, it is to do with the changes brought in by the 2022 Nationalities and Borders Act and not a change by the current UK government.

Yes.

However, more countries have been added in the last year, at least one announced and implemented immediately last April, causing confusion and chaos, as I posted earlier, and the rest coming into force on 25th February.

Australia was added to the list in November 2024.

Graphite

OP says she has an Australian passport. To get an Australian passport, you need to prove your Australian citizenship.

She says she can vote in UK elections. If that is true then she must mean she has also retained her British citizenship.

In that case, she has dual citizenship.

Twice I gave posted this link now. Here goes for a third time:

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10344/#:~:text=their%20digital%20UK%20immigration%20permission

From 25 February 2026, the Home Office will be fully applying the ETA requirement. The Home Office is advising British dual citizens to make sure they have a valid UK or Irish passport or certificate of entitlement if they will be travelling on or after that date. If they don’t, they may not be able to board their transport to the UK.

That is what OP has been told and is annoyed about but as I have already explained, it is to do with the changes brought in by the 2022 Nationalities and Borders Act and not a change by the current UK government.

OP appears to be holding Keir Starmer personally responsible🙈

My understanding is that as a dual Australian/British citizen nanna8 cannot travel on her Australian passport with an ETA, she must either get a new British passport or pay circa £400 to renounce her British citizenship. I don't see how that cost for renouncing citizenship can be justified.

nanna8.
Do you want to visit the UK ?,if not why worry,if you do well unfortunately it's the price you have to pay,life's too short to stress

Rosie51

My understanding is that as a dual Australian/British citizen nanna8 cannot travel on her Australian passport with an ETA, she must either get a new British passport or pay circa £400 to renounce her British citizenship. I don't see how that cost for renouncing citizenship can be justified.

No, Australian citizens with Australian but not British passports can come here for holidays but need to apply for the Electronic Travel Authority, valid for two years, first.

She has dual nationality which is allowed. Not all countries allow this.

She has to come here using her British passport, but as she is refusing to renew her British passport, she basically won’t be coming, and as she blames Keir Starmer 🤣🤣🤣🤣she ll probably vote for the first time in 50 years 🙄🙄

Allira from the link Graphite posted

A British dual national travelling on a foreign passport is not supposed to use any of those. They would be ineligible for an ETA, eVisa or immigration permission due to their British citizenship.

Surely that means she can't just travel on the Australian passport with an ETA. My son has dual British/Canadian citizenship so I assume the same would apply to him. I'm thoroughly confused..........