How long can Starmer survive? Getting popcorn ready 🍿🍿

Sorry, I meant MayBee70, I got you muddled up.

I don’t agree with you MaizieD. The selection of the leader is never down to the country, the party makes the decision. It was ever thus. Whether we like it or not, (and sometimes we do, sometimes we don’t), once a party is elected they are granted a five year term.

The country rejected Milliband once. Imo if the party just foist him on the electorate there should be an election. If not they’re just descending to the level of the Conservatives. ( I’m saying that as someone who voted for Ed as leader and really likes him). However, if there is a new leader my one hope is that Keir becomes foreign secretary as I’m sure that even people that dislike him will admit that internationally he does a good job.I’m totally in despair at the whole situation.

I asked you why you said what you did when we were discussing the need for a plan to clean up politics Oreo?
Hey Ho.

I think Milliband would be fine. He has had time to reflect on his decade old mistakes when Labour leader and is doing well in his ministerial post. I would just hope that he's also learned how to eat a bacon butty...

I'm also fine with the bookies' favourite, Angela Rayner if there is a satisfactory conclusion to tax problem. She's a good political operator. She didn't overcome all her early disadvantages by being hopeless.

So what if Ed Milliband becomes pm? He will last about as long as Liz Truss? Sometimes we over worry. We are in a new era of revolving door politics here. Starmer has done well to last 18 months or so.

Oreo

Casdon

Why? It would affect all parties, not just Labour, so the lead could be any high profile politician,, but in my opinion not a current parliamentarian, because of their conflict of interest.

Who do you think is a replacement for Starmer if it comes to it?

One name being promoted is Ed Milliband, now the left of the Labour Party have got Starmer on the run it may well be a real prospect.
Heaven help us all if that happens

But you don’t wish to answer and that’s ok.

No it wasn’t Casdon
I asked you a question and that was your answer.

You didn’t answer my question Oreo. The point you responded on was a different one, not what was being discussed at that point in the thread.

Casdon

You tell me who you think is best placed to lead on a strategy to reduce the risk of corruption, sleaze etc., which is specifically what we were talking about then, and which I think is really important to prevent a further Mandelson or other type of scandal repetition due to inadequate vetting, and then I’ll tell you who I think the next government leader could be if I was choosing them. Otherwise it’s just a dead cat.

Pardon?
A dead cat to ask who you would choose to replace Starmer if push comes to shove? How so? This thread is all about him.
I know it’s difficult as it’s not a great choice unless a little known backbencher emerges from the shadows, but if the May elections bomb for Labour then replaced he will be.
Clearly Starmer isn’t the best placed to lead on anything or he wouldn’t be in the pickle of his own making.
I rate Wes Streeting but he’s young and also Yvette Cooper.
And the thing about Streeting, tho he appears sensible he was close to Mandelson.So that’s him out of the picture.
Reeves should be replaced as well as Starmer.

nanna8

Tell ‘The Times’ with all their surveys. Maybe they just made it all up ? I can’t think of a more unpopular British PM in my lifetime but I can think of a few from other countries. I think he was popular for around a month, though.

A bit of research shows it is actually since Ipsos polls started in 1977.
So 256 years unaccounted for.
Hardly justifies the word "ever" does it?

Tell ‘The Times’ with all their surveys. Maybe they just made it all up ? I can’t think of a more unpopular British PM in my lifetime but I can think of a few from other countries. I think he was popular for around a month, though.

REKA

Luckygirl3

Starmer is the most disliked PM ever - I think Johnson wins hands down on that one ...

Nope. It's Keir. Plenty of info from both left and right wing press says the same. Easy to google.

Is there a league table of "most disliked" Prime Ministers going back to Robert Walpole?
Otherwise it sounds like complete nonsense.

Starmer is the most disliked PM ever including his own party. (Primrose53 Sun 08-Feb-26 22:11:38)

One major polling series (Ipsos) has indicated Starmer’s satisfaction figure as lower than most PMs since the late 1970s. But independent fact-checks stress that his ratings do not conclusively beat all historical lows, especially once you compare across different polling firms and periods.

Luckygirl3

*Starmer is the most disliked PM ever* - I think Johnson wins hands down on that one ...

Nope. It's Keir. Plenty of info from both left and right wing press says the same. Easy to google.

Charisma? Good grief.

No I don’t think so. Johnson had a bit of charisma even though he was a lousy PM.

Starmer is the most disliked PM ever - I think Johnson wins hands down on that one ...

Oreo

Why be annoyed about the OP and the mention of popcorn, it’s just an expression and I’m thinking that if the Conservatives were in power and Badenoch was on the ropes there’d be much glee as well as popcorn.

Oh Oreo but that would obviously be entirely different! 😝

“glee” is a great word and sums up exactly how the Left behaved when ridiculing Boris and Rishi, Theresa May etc. It never let up.

Starmer is the most disliked PM ever including his own party.

Spinnaker

Wyllow3

I think this thread is going round in circles now, descending into mini spats, and not adding anything new. There are other Starmer threads with more up to date issues, not worth bothering here imo.

Stay off this thread then and concentrate on the ones you think are worth bothering with.

When we start getting spiky about popcorn.....

Galaxy

When Johnson was in power we had daily updates on here detailing the calamities, we had frequent 'comedic' offerings from led by donkeys, etc etc. Sorry, but as an ex labour member, I can cope with criticism of the labour party. It is the price of power.

Yes, I remember one poster in particular who started every single day off with at least two or three posts/threads about the government of the day. Never hear from her now on the N&P threads - strange that isn't it ?

Sorry that was to Oreo.

You tell me who you think is best placed to lead on a strategy to reduce the risk of corruption, sleaze etc., which is specifically what we were talking about then, and which I think is really important to prevent a further Mandelson or other type of scandal repetition due to inadequate vetting, and then I’ll tell you who I think the next government leader could be if I was choosing them. Otherwise it’s just a dead cat.

Wyllow3

I think this thread is going round in circles now, descending into mini spats, and not adding anything new. There are other Starmer threads with more up to date issues, not worth bothering here imo.

Stay off this thread then and concentrate on the ones you think are worth bothering with.