How long can Starmer survive? Getting popcorn ready 🍿🍿

When Johnson was in power we had daily updates on here detailing the calamities, we had frequent 'comedic' offerings from led by donkeys, etc etc. Sorry, but as an ex labour member, I can cope with criticism of the labour party. It is the price of power.

Casdon

Why? It would affect all parties, not just Labour, so the lead could be any high profile politician,, but in my opinion not a current parliamentarian, because of their conflict of interest.

Who do you think is a replacement for Starmer if it comes to it?

MayBee70

I’m not referring to the criticism. I’m annoyed at how amusing the OP seems to find it.

The thing is that not everyone is a Labour voter and I should think quite a few people will regard the scandal/bad decisions and general infighting as amusing as they didn’t want them in power in the first place.

Wyllow3

I think this thread is going round in circles now, descending into mini spats, and not adding anything new. There are other Starmer threads with more up to date issues, not worth bothering here imo.

It isn’t up to a single poster when a thread should end, you don’t need to stay on this one.

I think this thread is going round in circles now, descending into mini spats, and not adding anything new. There are other Starmer threads with more up to date issues, not worth bothering here imo.

MayBee70

Oreo

Why be annoyed about the OP and the mention of popcorn, it’s just an expression and I’m thinking that if the Conservatives were in power and Badenoch was on the ropes there’d be much glee as well as popcorn.

Why are you supporting this attitude. I thought you were a Labour voter. Are you amused by what is happening?

I would imagine Oreo is a realist and sees the situation for what it is, rather than blindly following the party faithful, which is quite pathetic really.

I’m not referring to the criticism. I’m annoyed at how amusing the OP seems to find it.

MayBee70

Oreo

Why be annoyed about the OP and the mention of popcorn, it’s just an expression and I’m thinking that if the Conservatives were in power and Badenoch was on the ropes there’d be much glee as well as popcorn.

Why are you supporting this attitude. I thought you were a Labour voter. Are you amused by what is happening?

Here we are again Maybee70 any criticism of a Labour politician brings out that response from you.
Do you know how many Labour voters are sorely disappointed to say the least in the poor performance of Starmer and Reeves in particular? A change at the top now could be just what’s needed to get Labour through the next election as long as they realise what’s needed and wanted from the electorate.
It’s been a dire 18 months for Labour.

Why? It would affect all parties, not just Labour, so the lead could be any high profile politician,, but in my opinion not a current parliamentarian, because of their conflict of interest.

Oreo

Why be annoyed about the OP and the mention of popcorn, it’s just an expression and I’m thinking that if the Conservatives were in power and Badenoch was on the ropes there’d be much glee as well as popcorn.

Why are you supporting this attitude. I thought you were a Labour voter. Are you amused by what is happening?

Casdon

I don’t think that either of those things have anything to do with his ability to lead on a cleaning up parliamentary candidates drive.
The question do you think such a drive is needed, and if so, but not Brown, who do you think has the gravitas and respect to carry the lead role?

Certainly not Brown or Blair again, the only choices are on the front bench with Angela Rayner from the back benches.
It’s a poor old choice but who else is there?

Why be annoyed about the OP and the mention of popcorn, it’s just an expression and I’m thinking that if the Conservatives were in power and Badenoch was on the ropes there’d be much glee as well as popcorn.

The last thing the country needs is more people buying council houses at discount. Young people have enough difficulties with housing as it is.

I am very much in favour of council housing being there for all who want it, and for tenancies to be secure and non-means-tested, but they should not be sold. We would not be in the housing mess we are in (with all the cost of living implications that it has caused) if not for the Right To Buy.

Also, Johnson did not just 'have a drink' with colleagues during Covid. He made rules for the rest of us, that people were fined for breaking, and totally ignored them, showing complete disrespect for the population. Objecting to that is not 'making a fuss' - people were stopped from visiting dying relatives, attending funerals and all sorts of other important family events - even the Queen sat alone at her husband's funeral - but there were parties in Downing Street.

Having a drink with co- workers during covid ... that is the least of his midemeanours.

All the fuss about Borris
having a drink with people he worked with during Co vid
and there's a prime minister with children who accepts someone staying friends with a child abuser as ok and gives them a better job knowing that and the alternative is Angela who made it harder for people in social housing to buy their homes after she bought hers this country is getting worse

MayBee70

Primrose53

Luckygirl3

"Getting popcorn ready" - I am sorry but this is so pathetic.

This country is emerging from years of buffoonery in lieu of proper government and the international scene is seriously worrying for us all - and someone thinks it is fine to joke about the idea of more disruption to the continuity of government.

I do not usually actively criticise other posters - disagree with them maybe, but no criticize. But this is too much.

Sorry it’s “too much” for you!😥

It’s just a commonly used expression about getting ready for a dramatic or exciting event. You know - like sitting in a cinema with a bucket of popcorn and hardly realising you are devouring it because you are so excited waiting for things to unfold.

Aren’t we all watching and waiting?

Those of us who genuinely love our country are finding the whole situation quite distressing. Not making light of it like you are.

And thanks Casdon for the AI take.

We won’t all agree on news and politics but we cam aim to be mature and well informed

I don’t think that either of those things have anything to do with his ability to lead on a cleaning up parliamentary candidates drive.
The question do you think such a drive is needed, and if so, but not Brown, who do you think has the gravitas and respect to carry the lead role?

I agree that GB is not disqualified for selling off just over half of our gold reserves. There were strong arguments at the time but clearly no one foresaw the rise that was to come. Politics is littered with decisions that later proved unwise - not keeping ownership of our North Sea Oil ( look at Norway’s sovereign fund), privatisation of water , energy. Nor is his testy comment not realising his mic was still on. However, I can’t help but feel that pre- election it’s up to the political parties to vet candidates. Once holding ministerial office - at least major ones, there should be some vetting. As for ambassadors - I think they should be career diplomats and not washed up former politicians, even without unacceptable pasts.

I have no idea! I thought Tony Blair did once when I put my faith in him, but like many I was appalled by the lies that took us into an illegal war.

I don’t think that either of those things have anything to do with his ability to lead on a cleaning up parliamentary candidates drive.
The question do you think such a drive is needed, and if so, but not Brown, who do you think has the gravitas and respect to carry the lead role?

Casdon

Allsorts

The only one I think up to the job us GordonBrown but he wouldn't want it.

I think Gordon Brown would be a good candidate to lead a drive to reduce the risk of corruption, violence, sexual misconduct, and dishonesty in politicians. I’m still unclear as to whether there is routine exchange of information between MI6, the police and the parties. I feel strongly that it all needs to be massively tightened up, and that vetting should be a common, centralised process.

He sold off our gold reserves, which backfired when the price of gold massively surged.

Plus "Bigotgate" seriously let the mask slip there

He initially supported the Iraq invasion, backtracked later. Maybe he appears a shining beacon of light compared to Blair but that's a very low bar.

It’s neutral in its interpretation though Maremia, not a leftie publication….

MayBee70

Primrose53

Luckygirl3

"Getting popcorn ready" - I am sorry but this is so pathetic.

This country is emerging from years of buffoonery in lieu of proper government and the international scene is seriously worrying for us all - and someone thinks it is fine to joke about the idea of more disruption to the continuity of government.

I do not usually actively criticise other posters - disagree with them maybe, but no criticize. But this is too much.

Sorry it’s “too much” for you!😥

It’s just a commonly used expression about getting ready for a dramatic or exciting event. You know - like sitting in a cinema with a bucket of popcorn and hardly realising you are devouring it because you are so excited waiting for things to unfold.

Aren’t we all watching and waiting?

Those of us who genuinely love our country are finding the whole situation quite distressing. Not making light of it like you are.

"Watching and waiting" - but not with any great joy or anticipation for sure.

More like weariness, depression, concern as to how much worse things can get - answer = I suspect a fair bit yet before we hit bottom.

The only plus side now (if one can call it a "plus side") is it's become a whole sight clearer why things are the mess they are - ie a very grabby and evil set of people sitting there behind the scenes like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain - only they're a good bit more threatening than he was (as they're busily helping themselves to our share of the power and money - ie the vast majority of it then) as well as their own.

amusement casual insensitive low-brow trivialize tacky immature

AI didn't hold back.

Here is an AI breakdown of its usage based on the search results:

‘Anticipation of Conflict: It is commonly used to express enjoyment or amusement while watching a drama, argument, or chaotic situation unfold between other people, similar to watching a movie.

Context Dependent: While often used in casual, humorous situations, it can be viewed as insensitive or "tacky" (in poor taste) if the conflict being watched is serious or harmful to those involved.

Related Terms: The phrase is often associated with "cheesy" or "corny" situations, implying a low-brow, dramatic, or slightly embarrassing spectacle.

In summary, it is a common idiom for anticipating drama, but it can be perceived as tacky, insensitive, or immature if used to trivialize serious issues.’

Draw your own conclusions.

Primrose53

Luckygirl3

"Getting popcorn ready" - I am sorry but this is so pathetic.

This country is emerging from years of buffoonery in lieu of proper government and the international scene is seriously worrying for us all - and someone thinks it is fine to joke about the idea of more disruption to the continuity of government.

I do not usually actively criticise other posters - disagree with them maybe, but no criticize. But this is too much.

Sorry it’s “too much” for you!😥

It’s just a commonly used expression about getting ready for a dramatic or exciting event. You know - like sitting in a cinema with a bucket of popcorn and hardly realising you are devouring it because you are so excited waiting for things to unfold.

Aren’t we all watching and waiting?

Those of us who genuinely love our country are finding the whole situation quite distressing. Not making light of it like you are.