Meghan Markle’s father, Thomas, is in intensive care seriously ill.

Ah, so it is all Thomas's fault.

Is that what she did? I always got a different impression but I don't follow the story very much.

Journalists won’t elaborate ‘for legal reasons.’ There are rumours of course by probably best not to comment.

I agree with your comments about the mother merlotgran
Thomas looked after Meghan from the age of eleven to when she went to university. He had her privately educated from nursery age upwards.

I wonder what the mother was doing for all those years. I had read though that she had travelled the world teaching yoga.
So she persued her interests and left her daughter during those formative years.
She certainly didn’t cover herself in glory, did she?
Just as well then that her father was able to step up, the father she has since disowned.

theworriedwell

merlotgran

Doria was no paragon during Meghan’s teenage years. Describing yourself as a free spirit and buggering off leaving all the responsibilities and challenges behind you is hardly praiseworthy.

Is that what she did? I always got a different impression but I don't follow the story very much.

I thought, after they divorced, Doria was working in a job which necessitated her travelling ie cabin crew, so Thomas was the primary carer and Doria took over during the holidays.

Speculation, speculation and more speculation.
We have no idea what went on in their marriage or life together, or Meghan’s early life.
Even if they told us, would we believe them?

eazybee

Ah, so it is all Thomas's fault.

It’s not all anybody’s fault, including Meghan’s. They are all in this. That’s the whole point.

Agree Casdon. Estrangement has many, many possible causes- just a few- abuse, neglect, betrayal, lies, mental illness, addiction, divorce fall out, mis matched values and beliefs, lifestyle choices, identity issues etc etc. But common to all is underlying conflict and hurt feelings all round.

Only the people involved will understand their own perspective and experience and the circumstances that lead to each of them feeling as they do. Those who chose to cut ties often do so for self preservation when they feel the relationship become toxic or unsupportive, for them.

Most families, thank goodness, and/or individuals experience estrangement outside the media gaze. Very difficult for someone who already in the public eye to have one/or more of their family members reporting their experience/personal views in the media for financial gain or any other reason that so spectacularly shows disregard and lack of respect for how the other is feeling. It doesn't heal the estrangement and evidently is not designed to show their ( supposedly loved?) family member in a good light.

Thus courting the media exacerbates the pain all round and damages the already severely fractured relationship even more. Plus- as we are seeing in this post- promotes endless speculation.... So very sad.

Meghan had the fairy tale wedding, although the Prince turned out to be a frog, but her marriage brought her, initially at least, , status, privilege, connections, opportunities and wealth.

The two of them would have had the world at their feet, representing the Royal Family without the obligations Charles has and William will have.

They would have been welcomed everywhere with all the pomp and circumstance they might have wanted.

They could have done so much good for so many causes.

Casdon you say it isn’t anyone’s fault, yet when you first spoke of failed marriages of the Markle siblings you said “same father”

Doubt if Megan will leave Harry, it’s their marriage which brought her the headlines and the HRH, now she is mother of a Prince and Princess

Very difficult for someone who already in the public eye to have one/or more of their family members reporting their experience/personal views in the media for financial gain or any other reason

So one would imagine Meghan would understand how unpleasant it was for the Princess of Wales when the insinuations were released about bridesmaid dresses and tights, particularly as it involved a child.

It’s a fact Anniebach. They all have dysfunctional relationships, and they are all the children of the same father, who also has. They have two different mothers, who both also have failed marriages behind them. What I meant was that the blame does not all lie with one person, because with family dynamics like that the children do not have the same ‘normal’ way of behaviour to relate to.

eazybee- yes- Meghan, Harry, William and Kate and all others in the public eye who have such experience will no doubt understand how insinuations reported in the press about family conflict is unpleasant as they have experienced it.

The next part of my post: "Thus courting the media exacerbates the pain all round and damages the already severely fractured relationship even more. Plus- as we are seeing in this post- promotes endless speculation.... So very sad" evidences my agreement with you.

What a pity Meghan did not learn that lesson.

Casdon

It’s a fact Anniebach. They all have dysfunctional relationships, and they are all the children of the same father, who also has. They have two different mothers, who both also have failed marriages behind them. What I meant was that the blame does not all lie with one person, because with family dynamics like that the children do not have the same ‘normal’ way of behaviour to relate to.

Some people manage to change their behaviour despite any trauma they may have experienced in childhood.

Casdon

It’s a fact Anniebach. They all have dysfunctional relationships, and they are all the children of the same father, who also has. They have two different mothers, who both also have failed marriages behind them. What I meant was that the blame does not all lie with one person, because with family dynamics like that the children do not have the same ‘normal’ way of behaviour to relate to.

Does that make these kinds of people more prone to destroy the lives and careers of others with their bullying, unpleasant behaviour?

Yes, it’s known as the cycle of generational trauma.

Well, I know.

It is possible to break that cycle and not end up destroying others' mental health.

Poor Harry

This current post is showing TM has not learned the lesson Eazybee - I agree such a pity....

TM is the villain and Megan a victim !

Is your post directed at me Anniebach for agreeing with eazybee?

Not directed at anyone,

Ok thanks...

....and for a slight offshoot from this = I thought I knew a fair bit about body language....but have nothing on this guy, ie "The Body Language King" channel on YouTube and his specialist topic seems to be "Me-Again" as someone called her once.

I've agreed with his analysis to date...

Apologies for resurrecting this thread but, I was wondering about Thomas Markle.
He's gone very quiet since the letter/email from Meghan.
Do you think she'd paid for his med bills plus 'hush' money??