Move over Fergie, Andrew's turn again.

Yes, the victims names should be confidential
I do hope Tom Hanks isn’t found culpable. I know Hollywood life isn’t ‘normal ‘, but I want to continue to enjoy Tom Hanks

I find it very hard to believe anyone couldn’t see what Epstein’s proclivities were

I agree. Absolutely not unless they give consent.

OldFrill

If the redacted names are of the victims of Epstein's abuse it's maybe more likely that others named on those flights were aware of Epstein's sexual predilections. That's why the redacted names are of interest.

I don’t think the names should be released if they are victims. It would be better if they said that was the case with no names, or name them if they were somebody else.

If the redacted names are of the victims of Epstein's abuse it's maybe more likely that others named on those flights were aware of Epstein's sexual predilections. That's why the redacted names are of interest.

I was surprised to hear that Tom Hanks was on a list.

Once the full details are known it will be interesting to see how many repeat travelers appear!

Hopefully anyone named publicly will expose those who have had their names redacted.

The matter won’t end until the truth is fully exposed and out in the open.

OldFrill

Being on the flight manifest doesn't indicate anything other than the person was on a flight (the world already knew Prince Andrew had flown on Epstein's plane prior to the latest release of fight manifests). The plane (s) flew all over the he world. There's no confirmation Musk went to the island.

Being on the manifest indicates either the individual had no idea Epstein was a man obsessed with having sex with beautiful, fragile, damaged (a word I apologise for but hope the majority will understand its use) young, often under age girls, or they shared his obsession with as much sex as possible with no strings or come back

merlotgran

StripeyGran

Handsome, rich and famous. No wonder girls were willing to prostitute themselves in order to be part of his life

What?

Victim blaming of the worst kind. 😮

Quite shocking StripeyGran.

GrannyGravy13

He was on a plane owned by Epstein, so were many other far more influential figures.

I am far more interested in the redacted names.

Me too.

Being on the flight manifest doesn't indicate anything other than the person was on a flight (the world already knew Prince Andrew had flown on Epstein's plane prior to the latest release of fight manifests). The plane (s) flew all over the he world. There's no confirmation Musk went to the island.

My guess is the names were redacted because they were underage girls?

Both.

As has been said upthread, if Prince Andrew and Elon Musk are clearly on the list, I shudder to think of the names that have been redacted.

Redacted because of security risks or because of friends in high places?

Clinton's behaviour in office was in my view predatory.

StripeyGran

*Handsome, rich and famous. No wonder girls were willing to prostitute themselves in order to be part of his life*

What?

Victim blaming of the worst kind. 😮

Petra, bill clinton was it seems a frequent flier . Trump visited but I think they had a fall out

GrannyGravy13

He was on a plane owned by Epstein, so were many other far more influential figures.

I am far more interested in the redacted names.

I’d place a bet on Bill Clyntons name being on the list.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_assault_and_misconduct_allegations

Astitchintime

StripeyGran

These people could do so much good. Quietly and without fuss they could use their wealth to really make a difference.
Instead of which their greed runs riot.

Those of us on pensions know, you can be OK on a smallish amount of money.

Or they could earn a few pounds giving talks at functions, parties or u3a meetings 🤣🤣🤣🤣

"Tonight we have Prince Andrew telling us how much money you have to have to get away with child trafficking and sex abuse". Nice.

Handsome, rich and famous. No wonder girls were willing to prostitute themselves in order to be part of his life

What?

GrannyGravy13

He was on a plane owned by Epstein, so were many other far more influential figures.

I am far more interested in the redacted names.

So am I . We know Andrew and Sarah lived a life most of us would consider, well, tacky. They’re unpopular and no doubt anxious about how to continue to live extravagantly without public criticism

The names on the list are eye popping, well the ones I’ve seen are.

Surely no one can dismiss the fact that sex offenders find each other and build empires, even if only in one school eg.

He was on a plane owned by Epstein, so were many other far more influential figures.

I am far more interested in the redacted names.

I'm sure Andrew would have benefited greatly from the late Queen's Will. (Favourite son).
He will have enough funds to live quite nicely with or without Fergie .

StripeyGran

These people could do so much good. Quietly and without fuss they could use their wealth to really make a difference.
Instead of which their greed runs riot.

Those of us on pensions know, you can be OK on a smallish amount of money.

Or they could earn a few pounds giving talks at functions, parties or u3a meetings 🤣🤣🤣🤣

What a vindictive lot you sound. Have you all forgotten Prince Andrew in his youth? Handsome, rich and famous. No wonder girls were willing to prostitute themselves in order to be part of his life.
As for Sarah, she was never whiter than white. Everyone knew that right from the start. She's a fun-loving person, which is a big part of why Andrew liked her.
The late queen never put a foot wrong, unlike her sister. The royals are human and can't be expected to live perfect lives.

These people could do so much good. Quietly and without fuss they could use their wealth to really make a difference.
Instead of which their greed runs riot.

Those of us on pensions know, you can be OK on a smallish amount of money.

Look deeper and see what you can find.

How unpleasant.
They don't receive any public or royal money, and although Andrew may have a lease on Royal Lodge they cannot afford the upkeep and will have to face moving out sometime soon. They have destroyed their public profile through their own stupidity and have nothing left to offer.
I really do not want to know any details of their relationship, and I am tired of the unpleasant drip feed coming from the U.S. in an attempt to divert attention away from notorious American public figures who availed themselves of Epstein's services.