BBC report
“Israel has faced mounting criticism over the 22-month-long war with Hamas, with UN-backed experts warning of widespread famine unfolding in the besieged territory.
On Tuesday members of an international group of former leaders known as "The Elders" for the first time called the war in Gaza an "unfolding genocide" and blamed Israel for causing famine among its population.
Following a visit to the Gaza border, Helen Clark and Mary Robinson, a former prime minister of New Zealand and a former president of Ireland, said in a joint statement: "What we saw and heard underlines our personal conviction that there is not only an unfolding, human-caused famine in Gaza. There is an unfolding genocide."
I agree Babs03. Trump wants Gaza and is aiding Netanyahu in the clearing of Palestinians.
Israel will be tainted by this but the US will be seen as a saviour by some when they rebuild Gaza into another resort.
ronib
Don’t agree that it’s about wiping out Palestinians - it’s about the status of the Palestinian State. Babs03. Palestine through the actions of Hamas will never be allowed independent statehood in Israel. That’s just the way it is….
Mahmoud Abbas isn’t Hamas he governs the West Bank.
In light of this I refuse to recognise the argument that this is just about Hamas, I find what Hamas did was despicable, however, this action against Abbas, and continued attacks in the West Bank as well as the seizing of land and property by illegal settlers proves beyond any doubt that this is an orchestrated plan between Netanyahu and Trump to eradicate Palestinians.
Call it ethnic cleansing, call it genocide, or try to deny it, is up to you, but this just underlines what I believe is happening to Palestinians.
And I can’t see how any intelligent person cannot see this.
Don’t agree that it’s about wiping out Palestinians - it’s about the status of the Palestinian State. Babs03. Palestine through the actions of Hamas will never be allowed independent statehood in Israel. That’s just the way it is….
Correction - was never just about Hamas but about wiping out all Palestinians.
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“Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has been blocked from attending the UN General Assembly session in New York next month after he and 80 other Palestinian officials had their visas revoked, the US State Department has confirmed.
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio blamed them for undermining peace efforts and for seeking "the unilateral recognition of a conjectural Palestinian state".
The decision, which has been welcomed by Israel, is unusual as the US is expected to facilitate travel for officials of all countries wishing to visit the UN headquarters.”
Totally unheard of.
Abbas is in no way representative of Hamas, he governs the West Bank which is also under attack from Netanyahu.
So disgusting. Am truly shocked about this but realise I shouldn’t be, after all this was ever just about Hamas, a about wiping out all Palestinians.
Anniebach
A leader of Hamas in Gaza has been killed
Good. It's Hamas who should be killed but not the innocents.
valdavi
Of course the nuns didn't. They were talking about the nature of prayer.
The one thing I remember in the teachings of Christ about prayer is that he said, don't pray to be rich or that you're going to catch lots of fish today. And then he taught the Lords prayer as an example of how to pray well.
But book of common prayer has lots of other prayers, that's not dismissing the teachings of Christ.
Exactly and also some people haven't heard the teachings of Christ through no fault of their own, should the nuns have dismissed their heartfelt prayers? Christian charity seems missing from some.
I agree with TakeThat7's post yesterday @ 22.13 nanna8.
A leader of Hamas in Gaza has been killed
I wondered what would happen to the people who are too ill or disabled in Gaza City. Will the IDF be merciful to them?
The end is on the way for the Gaza that once was and it will be completely reshaped by the US.
Netanyahu is doing the work of clearing Gaza for Trump who will take over in Gaza and whether Israel will get a say in what happens to Gaza we won't know.
Whitewavemark2
theworriedwell
Catholic Archbishop of Jerusalem has said the Church of the Holy Family cannot be evacuated due to sick vulnerable and disabled people sheltering there. The priests and nuns will not leave them. The IDF have been told. I hope they respect the sanctuary of the church.
Is this church in Gaza city?
What has the UK got to do with what is happening over there? Pride in your country has nothing to do with atrocities occurring in Gaza. Appalling comment.
I don't feel pride in this country no flag flying for me We haven't condemned the awful things happening in Gaza It's been like let them all be killed What about all the people under the rubble and destroyed life's constantly as Israeli settlers steal land
Of course the nuns didn't. They were talking about the nature of prayer.
The one thing I remember in the teachings of Christ about prayer is that he said, don't pray to be rich or that you're going to catch lots of fish today. And then he taught the Lords prayer as an example of how to pray well.
But book of common prayer has lots of other prayers, that's not dismissing the teachings of Christ.
Quote theworriedwell Fri 29-Aug-25 21:30:04
Thank you Babs. It must be so frightening but they won't leave the people they are caring for. The Archbishop spoke very well on radio four. He has visited the church and spoke about the devestation he saw.
We don't need to name a God, the nuns who taught me said prayer is like smoke, it all goes up and I like to think that is how it is.
With respect you claim Nuns dismissed the teachings of Christ ? Ok
Thank you Babs. It must be so frightening but they won't leave the people they are caring for. The Archbishop spoke very well on radio four. He has visited the church and spoke about the devestation he saw.
We don't need to name a God, the nuns who taught me said prayer is like smoke, it all goes up and I like to think that is how it is.
Quote Oreo Fri 29-Aug-25 20:55:49
Nothing would stop them from raping, not that or being a virgin or underage or anything else.Monsters.
True “Oreo” , it was so upsetting hearing her innocent thoughts , yes monsters , it certainly couldn’t be classed as war attack-
a military offensive against an enemy or enemy position
Nothing would stop them from raping, not that or being a virgin or underage or anything else.Monsters.
Quote Babs03 Fri 29-Aug-25 20:33:31
theworriedwell
It is Whitewavemark2. I hope they are safe. The Archbishop says they have some food stocks but not much.
I hope anyone who prays can remember them in their prayers.
Am not religious but will pray to any God to help them and any other desperate innocent civilians in Gaza.
May I suggest heavenly Father, Abba, Yahweh, Jehovah for Christians, Allah for Muslims
Quote Oreo Fri 29-Aug-25 20:41:20
Awful as it is for them Anniebach after all this time it’s some kind of closure.
I cannot even try to understand why take a dead body back to Gaza, they are inhuman, I listened to a young girl taken hostage, she thought as she had a period it would prevent rape,
bless her it didn’t stop them
Awful as it is for them Anniebach after all this time it’s some kind of closure.
theworriedwell
It is Whitewavemark2. I hope they are safe. The Archbishop says they have some food stocks but not much.
I hope anyone who prays can remember them in their prayers.
Am not religious but will pray to any God to help them and any other desperate innocent civilians in Gaza.
🙏🏾🙏🏾
Quote Oreo Fri 29-Aug-25 20:18:22
Anniebach
Quote Smileless2012 Fri 29-Aug-25 16:55:46
Well at least the BBC owns up to its mistakes which is more than can be said for the IDF and Netanyahu
Mistakes!
The body of a dead hostage has been found and returned to Israel, he was murdered in Israel 7th October 2023 and his body taken to Gaza,
Not sure if I heard aright but they may have found the remains of yet another hostage as well.
Must be finding them with the help of spies in place in Gaza, well done them.
Yes a second body found , not identified yet. They can be given a funeral with their family and friends attending
Anniebach
Quote Smileless2012 Fri 29-Aug-25 16:55:46
Well at least the BBC owns up to its mistakes which is more than can be said for the IDF and Netanyahu
Mistakes!
The body of a dead hostage has been found and returned to Israel, he was murdered in Israel 7th October 2023 and his body taken to Gaza,
Not sure if I heard aright but they may have found the remains of yet another hostage as well.
Must be finding them with the help of spies in place in Gaza, well done them.
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