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Badenoch rating falls to zero

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-May-25 06:55:40

Amongst Tory party members. Is it time for another change to see if that worksšŸ˜„.

Apparently Jenrick is popular.

Not much to choose from is there?

Wyllow3 Tue 20-May-25 14:32:06

The problem for the Conservatives and Reform is that Reform isn't just "more to the right" than the Conservatives. Reforms underlying ideologies have a resemblance to Trumps' visions of governance.

Cossy Tue 20-May-25 14:15:33

karmalady

meanwhile starmer is -46

This post is about Badenoch, not Starmer.

We seriously need good, strong and positive opposition. Not more and more leadership changes.

fancythat Tue 20-May-25 14:14:33

I switch off when she talks.
I dont know why.

I wanted Jenrick to win the leadership contest.

But that was then and this is now.
I tend not to go back in time on anything.

MayBee70 Tue 20-May-25 14:11:32

Neilspurgeon0

Although I personally could never vote for the party of my MP (Braverman, say no more) I do think Cleverly is a more balanced option than Jenrick and less likely to put his foot in it with a loose cannon of a mouth.

Well, he was supposed to be the new leader but, along with everything else, the party messed up the voting.

Casdon Tue 20-May-25 14:09:08

ronib

Suella is still to pick her party?

There is no room for Suella in Reform. She’s a loose cannon and we all know what Farage does to loose cannons.

Neilspurgeon0 Tue 20-May-25 14:07:27

Although I personally could never vote for the party of my MP (Braverman, say no more) I do think Cleverly is a more balanced option than Jenrick and less likely to put his foot in it with a loose cannon of a mouth.

escaped Tue 20-May-25 13:53:25

I think Badenoch is ineffectual.

LizzieDrip Tue 20-May-25 13:52:13

Grantanow

And Johnson wrecked the Tory elite by getting rid of so many able and honourable MPs like David Gauke.

Yes, David Gauke was a good man.

However, the Tory’s foolish loss was Labour’s gain. Starmer obviously rated him highly as he appointed him to lead the prison review in 2024.

ā€Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer will appoint the former Conservative Justice Secretary David Gauke to lead a review of prison sentencing, the BBC has confirmedā€

Well done JohnsonšŸ™ˆ

escaped Tue 20-May-25 13:52:10

Visgir1

ronib

But the Conservatives don’t seem to have any other candidate at the moment? Badenoch is a gift to Reform.

Think people forget Suella is waiting in the wings!

Now that's a name I would pick out. I thought her speaking was quite impressive last time round, or was that the time before?

ronib Tue 20-May-25 13:43:40

Suella is still to pick her party?

Visgir1 Tue 20-May-25 13:33:28

ronib

But the Conservatives don’t seem to have any other candidate at the moment? Badenoch is a gift to Reform.

Think people forget Suella is waiting in the wings!

Parsley3 Tue 20-May-25 13:30:26

www.globalplayer.com/videos/2JsScNWBKpt/
I heard Priti Patel steamrollering Nick Ferrari this morning on LBC if anyone wants a listen. It was a negative rant about the EU deal and ended with her blaming the government for failing to get food into Gaza. She wouldn't make a good party leader either. We do need some good Conservative frontrunners but I can't think of a single candidate and I can hardly believe that, in my lifetime, I am seeing the demise of the Conservative Party but that's what seems to be happening. It is obvious now that Badenoch was a poor choice.

ronib Tue 20-May-25 13:29:27

Thinking about the last election, Starmer didn’t galvanise voters and gained power with a small percentage of the total vote….was it 20 per cent? The Conservatives blew it.

ronib Tue 20-May-25 13:14:18

But the Conservatives don’t seem to have any other candidate at the moment? Badenoch is a gift to Reform.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-May-25 13:08:14

ronib

I think Badenoch should stay in place for a bit longer- she seems good at being irritating. This seems to have been the primary role of the leader of the opposition for quite some time now. However as prime minister, I don’t think Badenoch has a chance.

šŸ˜„šŸ˜„šŸ˜„she s very good at embarrassing herself. She is a gift to the Labour Party.

Casdon Tue 20-May-25 13:04:38

The key thing a leader of the party that has just lost a general election needs to do is to reform, and galvanise, the party back to a position to fight the following election with a good chance of winning. I don’t really think being irritating is anything to do with it.

ronib Tue 20-May-25 12:57:27

I think Badenoch should stay in place for a bit longer- she seems good at being irritating. This seems to have been the primary role of the leader of the opposition for quite some time now. However as prime minister, I don’t think Badenoch has a chance.

Casdon Tue 20-May-25 12:42:53

This thread is not about Starmer ronib, but about whether you think Badenoch is doing a good job, and if you don’t, who do you think should replace her?

ronib Tue 20-May-25 12:36:51

I thought the leader of the opposition majored in negativity - Starmer certainly did when he held that position.

Gin Tue 20-May-25 12:28:34

I only hear Badenoch’s constant. negativity. I have no idea how she would solve our major problems, she just shouts down anything Labour puts forward. I have not heard if she has put forward a single solution to help those in poverty.

Grantanow Tue 20-May-25 11:55:05

And Johnson wrecked the Tory elite by getting rid of so many able and honourable MPs like David Gauke.

Grantanow Tue 20-May-25 11:53:25

The Tories need (and deserve) 10 years in the wilderness to reformulate their views and to grow a new leadership. Badenoch is a waste of time and Jenrick would be worse. They need to resuscitate former senior Tory as a stand-in leader ( just as they did with Muchael Howard).

Wyllow3 Tue 20-May-25 11:03:06

My enduring image of Badenoch is trying to fire criticism at Starmer on the ballot box, or when she criticises for example atm the UK/EU deal.

I really have no idea what she does stand for or what positive policies she feels would benefit the UK. Its really needed, whoever has the role

I dont know if Jenrick is popular or not, are there polls? He is better at getting policy across, but his policies echo many of Reforms.

Surely Cleverly would have made a better job? Or Stride?

henetha Tue 20-May-25 10:19:31

Mel Stride, the present shadow chancellor, is our local MP.
He seems a decent bloke, attends lots of local events and is generally well liked here. But I didn't vote for him as I am not a tory supporter.
How about him for leader?

LizzieDrip Tue 20-May-25 09:34:08

GG do you see anyone in the current Tory cohort who could / would bring the party back to its ā€˜natural home’?