Two men charged with assaulting police officers after the Manchester Airport brawl

Jaxjacky

GG13 Amaaz was convicted of actual bodily harm, remanded in custody awaiting sentencing, on both female police officers.

Thanks for the info 👍

GG13 Amaaz was convicted of actual bodily harm, remanded in custody awaiting sentencing, on both female police officers.

I would think it’s extremely unusual for two juries to fail to reach a verdict on the basis of exactly the same evidence, I don’t know how there could be a subsequent resolution by jury after that. Perhaps there should be a different process developed - I don’t know what though.

Two juries in two trials couldn’t reach an unanimous decision, so the CPS have decided to not have a third trial.

Not a not guilty verdict, imagine how the WPC feels, she had her nose broken by these two thugs…

Allsorts

Wyllow3, I do hope you are never on a jury.
There is no justification for violence, to excuse it because of race or gender is discriminatory.

What an outrageous thing to write!

Juries are supposed to consider evidence, which is what Wyllow has done, not go with the flow of a baying social media mob.

love0c

Am I surprised at the decision? To be perfectly honest, I am not really sure. I do think the public needs to be made aware of how and why this decision was made in the end. We have so much division now in this country. I for one do not want anymore. I worry for my children and grandchildren a the state this country is being allowed to get in.

You shouldn't be worried!! I really don't know what state you think the country is in.

The decision was made by a jury, which is made up of "ordinary people", because the evidence was not clear that the older brother had assaulted a police officer. The available videos do not show what happened.

People seem to be confusing the different charges. The younger brother has already been found guilty and will be sentenced soon.

Now that's a nasty dig, Allsorts.

And most certainly not the case.

I had had a lot of help twice over the last 4 years from the police firstly for coercive abuse from my ex husband where language and threats were extremely violent, 2022, and actual sexual assault last October '25. And I watch a lot of police reality stuff showing the violence they contend with particularly at night, including seeing how they deal with violence and restraint.

My actual view on what happened is of a slow build up at the airport dealt with badly at the onset, and ending in a situation where both the police and the alleged offenders "*lost it*".

A jury would have been looking in minute detail at the sequence of events and who did what

and was the kicking actually necessary (as in the case of the recent kicking which was done because the suspect may have had a bomb in his rucksack)

and I am being totally honest when I say I would have accepted a jury decision either way.

But some posters on this thread have gone in heavily on the idea that they were let off somehow because of their race

and that the Juries were rigged in some way

and there have been many intimations that show a real degree of racism in my opinion,

And a level of ignorance as in upthread "they should be deported" without checking first these were British Citizens

And that is what I have taken issue with

Am I surprised at the decision? To be perfectly honest, I am not really sure. I do think the public needs to be made aware of how and why this decision was made in the end. We have so much division now in this country. I for one do not want anymore. I worry for my children and grandchildren a the state this country is being allowed to get in.

When you are in a Jury, you consider the facts before you, not the slants presented by the media.

Wyllow3, I do hope you are never on a jury.
There is no justification for violence, to excuse it because of race or gender is discriminatory.

Sarnia

Wyllow3

I'm glad decisions have been reached after uncertainty , and they have clearly considered every angle because of the publicity.
They are UK citizens and will be dealt with accordingly, we don't deport our own citizens.

That's a shame, I was making a list. It's quite long now. Does Nige from Reform have one 'r' or two in his name?

Are you suggesting that Farage should be deported?

twaddle

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The defence solicitor is the same solicitor that is defending Nicola Sturgeon

But if useless information on a Friday night

How could these thugs who attacked the Police afford expensive representation??

No idea, but it was the jury who didn't convict. The people's decision. Sorry, but if you don't like the jury system, maybe you should vote for a party which wants to get rid of it. Unfortunately, juries are an integral part of democracy.

but if you don't like the jury system, maybe you should vote for a party which wants to get rid of it.
Unfortunately I mistakenly did! Or have you missed the bit where our present government wants to further restrict the right to trial by a jury of your peers?

Wyllow3

I'm glad decisions have been reached after uncertainty , and they have clearly considered every angle because of the publicity.
They are UK citizens and will be dealt with accordingly, we don't deport our own citizens.

That's a shame, I was making a list. It's quite long now. Does Nige from Reform have one 'r' or two in his name?

Oreo

It has absolutely zilch to do with right wing/ left wing concerns, none at all.

Hmmm.

And any violence to the police by ‘gun wielding Christian nationalists in the MAGA crowd’ would be just as bad.

It has absolutely zilch to do with right wing/ left wing concerns, none at all.

Wyllow3
It’s absolutely true that some violent actions would be deemed desirable and necessary in some cultures.
I don’t know the background ethnically/ culturally of the men in the Manchester airport so can’t say if it’s true of them or not.
If you think for instance about what are called honour or dowry violence and killings then you must realise that what I said is true.

Oreo

Of course it isn’t, in some cultures some violent actions would be deemed as either necessary and even desirable.

Hmm - like some of the gun wielding Christian nationalists in the MAGA crowd?*

Look, people from all cultures under severe pressure will become violent. Muslims are no different from any other as we look back historically.

We have to deal with he specifics of exactly what happened where both the police and the alleged assailants were under a great deal of pressure. The internal investigation within the police isnt just a matter of "overkill" it is because some of the actions were questionable as to the degree of response and possibly some provocation earlier in another past of the airport as it all begin to unfold. It really isnt as simple of this

"Muslim baddies win the day due to softy lefties" as is being made out - it may suit a right wing narrative who wish to predict it will affect Makerfield and paint all Muslims with the same label but it really was all very complex.

And only the Mother and him know what was said on the plane and from what I read at the time he didn’t direct any comments to her but she overheard something.
When she left the plane and met her sons she then complained to them.And so the violence started.

Wyllow3

Hang on a bit. their mother was racially abused on the plane by that man.

So he claimed anyway.

Wyllow3

Hang on a bit. their mother was racially abused on the plane by that man.

That was their excuse to the physical violence they meted out.
The man in question was also Asian btw.

Hang on a bit. their mother was racially abused on the plane by that man.

One of them felt he was going to be killed and did not realise the PC was really the Police. errr, he was in uniform with the word POLICE on his hat!

Unbelievable!

I shall just hope that when the brother in custody is sentenced it will be a fitting sentence for the crime.