Charlie Mullins

As Mrs Merkle said, ‘What does she see in him?’

Doodledog, I hope it is only "ridiculous scaremongering nonsense" but with the start Labour has made and the statement that following the Budget that things are only going to get worse, folk that are able to, are of course preparing themselves so that they can keep their hard-earned money. I'm certainly not wealthy by any means but I'm worried.

twinnytwin

Doodledog, I hope it is only "ridiculous scaremongering nonsense" but with the start Labour has made and the statement that following the Budget that things are only going to get worse, folk that are able to, are of course preparing themselves so that they can keep their hard-earned money. I'm certainly not wealthy by any means but I'm worried.

I understand that. I don't have millions (if only ) but what I do have is hard-earned too - not many people have money land in their laps. I am prepared to have a bit less in the short-term if it means that things can be turned round for the future, though. If things continue to decline the way they've been doing the country won't be a good place for the next generations, and IMO it's a good thing that someone is trying to stop the decline.

I like to think that if I did have millions I would feel the same - after all, I'd have more to spare, and my extra taxes would make more of a difference. Either way, we can't have a better country unless we pay for it, and that payment has to come from everyone.

Doodledog

Where are all these attacks on CM?

What I see is yet more opportunities to have a go at the government being snatched, even though the tax rates haven't altered since they were set by the Tories.

It's interesting that those claiming to support him are the ones citing his class, background and accent, and assuming that 'labour supporters' should automatically support someone from his background regardless of his behaviour, or they are somehow being hypocritical.

Personally, as a Labour voter (but not slavish supporter) I couldn't care less about people's backgrounds, and can see no reason why I should.

Quite Doodledog. It’s not an attack to say you abhor somebody who has said that somebody else should be killed, in my world anyway. Multimillionaires are like the rest of us - some are good people who we should be sorry to lose if they decide to leave the UK, some are not, their background is irrelevant.

Well he sounds like the kind of bloke we can do without. Seems nobody has bothered to mention that he once said someone should kill Sadiq Khan. Classy.

An alternative view

What concerns me is the amount of public money he has amassed which he is now intending to take with him.

Unless he has made his fortune earning money from other countries the fact is that it comprises money initially issued by the UK government. By removing it from the country and not paying tax on it he is actually contributing to the UK's deficit as none of it will now return to the Treasury.

I doubt very much if, despite the amount someone quoted as him having paid in tax, he has actually paid as much tax as a percentage of his income/wealth as 'ordinary' people pay through the PAYE system and through indirect taxation. Clever accountants and 'tax planning' usually ensures that the rich have opportunities which are not available to most other taxpayers to minimise the tax they pay.

If he didn't pay his workers a decent wage then his wealth has been made on the back of their exploitation. Just like capitalists through the last couple of centuries. He wasn't providing work in the philanthropical way that it is usually presented "Oh, wealthy people kindly provide people with jobs", he did it out of pure self interest to enrich himself.

One wonders what his charges were like and how he dealt with his suppliers.

Does one regard the money that the government issues for our use, to serve the economy, as a handy source of private enrichment for some or as a public benefit which should provide a reasonable life for all citizens?

Babs03

Well he sounds like the kind of bloke we can do without. Seems nobody has bothered to mention that he once said someone should kill Sadiq Khan. Classy.

Quite a few of us have mentioned it. It doesn’t seem to make a difference to his admirers.

There are some GNers who live abroad, including me, but I don't think that any of us went in order to avoid tax.

In France we submit a combined tax return and to date, after allowances, have not paid any income tax. However, I am a registered auto entrepeneur and cotisations at the rate of nearly 27% are deducted from the fees paid by my company. I pay CT on my profits in the UK.

There will be a number of reasons for moving abroad. For us, I'd always wanted a holiday home here, to which my DH was opposed because he didn't want to do up any more houses. We wanted a project, an adventure and a change.

With regard to Mullins, he made his money off the backs of his workers. He had a good idea but his workers weren't treated too well. I have no objections to the wealthy entrepreneurs if they are good employers.

With regard to Mullins, he made his money off the backs of his workers. He had a good idea but his workers weren't treated too well. I have no objections to the wealthy entrepreneurs if they are good employers.
Some of the views he expressed about workers' rights were 'retro' to say the least.

Good riddance- he isn't exactly an asset to whatever country he goes to.

Wyllow3

Casdon will this do
tellmamauk.org/twitter-suspends-charlie-mullins-for-someone-should-kill-sadiq-khan-tweet/

It gives more details what he actually said, which was very racist.
It has to be quote something for Elon Musk to ban!

What a horrible man, good riddance. Yes, I bet he was headed that way anyway but has an inflated ego and has to score points whatever he does.

Is that the most reliable source you can find? 😝

Whether he said it or not I have no idea but remember the repulsive so called “comedienne” Jo Brand who said on TV that someone should have thrown battery acid over Nigel Farage rather than milkshake. She didn’t lose her BBC job or any other even though she said it in front of millions.

^With regard to Mullins, he made his money off the backs of his workers. He had a good idea but his workers weren't treated too well.

MPs earn their money off the backs of working taxpayers. Some of the workers don’t feel treated too well.

Lisaangel10

Wyllow3

Casdon will this do
tellmamauk.org/twitter-suspends-charlie-mullins-for-someone-should-kill-sadiq-khan-tweet/

It gives more details what he actually said, which was very racist.
It has to be quote something for Elon Musk to ban!

What a horrible man, good riddance. Yes, I bet he was headed that way anyway but has an inflated ego and has to score points whatever he does.

Is that the most reliable source you can find? 😝

Whether he said it or not I have no idea but remember the repulsive so called “comedienne” Jo Brand who said on TV that someone should have thrown battery acid over Nigel Farage rather than milkshake. She didn’t lose her BBC job or any other even though she said it in front of millions.

Well, it’s in the Telegraph too, but I didn’t attach that as it’s a paywall. I presume you consider the Telegraph a relatable source? He definitely said it.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/31/charlie-mullins-pimlico-plumbers-suspended-tweet-sadiq-khan/

Yes: I was initially going to use the Telegraph source but as you say the paywall didn't give the quote in full.

Like I said, Lisaangel10, it was actually deleted by Elon Musk it was judged so nasty (and he's your actual "free speech" guru). Why do you consider tellmama an unreliable source when they are just quoting an X post?

good riddance!

There was a very interesting programme a couple of years ago where CM invited a young, unemployed guy to share his large apartment in London with him for a couple of weeks.

CM showed him around, gave him a beautiful room and provided him with food etc. The guy was very impressed and said he would like all of this one day. CM told him he left school at 15 with no qualifications and no help from anybody but started his own business.

As the days went on the guy was staying in bed till lunchtime, leaving mess everywhere and making no attempt to find work.

CM then gave him a real talking to and said with no motivation to better himself he was going nowhere and as I recall they fell out for a few days.

The programme ended with CM wishing him well and promising he would always be there for him and the guy accepting that without some input from himself he would never get on. It was actually quite moving.

Never heard of him. However if he’s paid £120 million in tax, I don’t suppose he’s going to be too worried about putting the heating on, even if he’s decided to emigrate to Iceland.

MPs earn their money off the backs of working taxpayers. Some of the workers don’t feel treated too well.

They don't. They are directly state paid public employees. AS taxation doesn't fund spending they're not cheating us in any way.

Maggiemaybe

Babs03

Well he sounds like the kind of bloke we can do without. Seems nobody has bothered to mention that he once said someone should kill Sadiq Khan. Classy.

Quite a few of us have mentioned it. It doesn’t seem to make a difference to his admirers.

It won't. He always seemed a rather unpleasant type to me.

Why do people fall for all this stuff?

MaizieD

^MPs earn their money off the backs of working taxpayers. Some of the workers don’t feel treated too well.^

They don't. They are directly state paid public employees. AS taxation doesn't fund spending they're not cheating us in any way.

None of the research I’ve done says that doesn’t happen.
But I’ll take your word for it.
Where do you say the money to run Parliament including paying MPs salaries and expenses comes from.

Babs03

Well he sounds like the kind of bloke we can do without. Seems nobody has bothered to mention that he once said someone should kill Sadiq Khan. Classy.

He strikes me as a third-rate Arthur Daley type spiv.

poor bugger, so poor
he owns a whole village in hertfordshire doesn't he?

Gosh, what a lot of nastiness to a guy none of us have probably ever met.

Lisaangel10

Gosh, what a lot of nastiness to a guy none of us have probably ever met.

Happens often on here.

Lisaangel10

Gosh, what a lot of nastiness to a guy none of us have probably ever met.

Par for the course on GN at the moment unfortunately 🤷‍♀️

He’s a self-made man and I say good luck to him