Labour Party conference

What really pleased me was the way Starmer is refusing to meet the Tories in their culture wars. He is refusing to bite. The election is going to be fought on the economy and NHS.

MayBee70

ronib

MayBee70 if you believe this rubbish then quite respectfully potentially you are very gullible….. didn’t you learn anything about politics from the Johnson years?

How downright rude....

Not only rude but downright insulting to both MayBee and Starmer.

Out of all the PMs of the last 70+ years to choose as an example; the most mendacious, self serving and corrupt individual ever to have held the office.

ronib

MayBee70 if you believe this rubbish then quite respectfully potentially you are very gullible….. didn’t you learn anything about politics from the Johnson years?

How downright rude....

Germanshepherdsmum

Jam in a few years’ time. Saying it will take at least ten years is a good get out of jail card.

I heard nothing impressive, just the same old platitudes. Tell people what they want to hear and hope they’re gullible enough to believe it.

Much like the Tory conference in your eyes then Germanshepherdsmum.

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Apparently this speech was intended to show the direction of travel if the Labour Party gets in, the policies relating to this will be revealed as we approach the election.

There were a couple of policy announcements, but really everything is being locked away until next year - otherwise the Tories who have no policies will pinch the ideas.

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Well I didn’t hear anything at all from tory party conference.

Jam in a few years’ time. Saying it will take at least ten years is a good get out of jail card.

I heard nothing impressive, just the same old platitudes. Tell people what they want to hear and hope they’re gullible enough to believe it.

ronib

G is definitely for gullible…. Good grief

Who are you referring to?

G is definitely for gullible…. Good grief

Oreo

I have some sympathy for what Bastani says as well Grany
We won’t know if Starmer is any good until he’s in power and even then I’m not confident like some are that the land of milk and honey will happen in the next few years and that all their conference promises will materialise.
What choice is there tho?

He never promised a land of milk and honey in the next few years. Didn't he say it would take at least ten to get things back on track.

I thought he was good. I only hope that the LP can follow through with his ideas when they come to power and assuming that the Tories haven't salted the earth.

Very well balanced.

Starmer’s speech is inspiring.

Thank you (smile).

I know the song, it was from last year, it’s Lionheart (Fearless) by English musicians Joel Corry and Tom Grennan.

What was the music Starmer came in to?

True Grantanow the bar hasn’t been high has it? Sunak the best of the bunch, but not likely to last much longer.

Of course we can't tell for sure what kind of Prime Minister Starmer will be but he can't be worse than the last five Tory PMs. We can be sure about their failings, especially Johnson and Truss. Sunak might be more competent than his predecessors but he lacks the support of the Party (which preferred Truss, all of whose ideas he predicted would fail) and is faced with various disloyal figures positioning themselves to succeed him with the support of the bonkers wing of the Tory Party.

Casdon

Oreo

I have some sympathy for what Bastani says as well Grany
We won’t know if Starmer is any good until he’s in power and even then I’m not confident like some are that the land of milk and honey will happen in the next few years and that all their conference promises will materialise.
What choice is there tho?

Is anybody at all thinking that the future will be a land of milk and honey? If so, speak now!

Don’t take every phrase used on GN so literally😄
There do seem to be a number of posters who think that Starmer will sweep into power and change everything when I think he will be cautious about things and take his time.Two terms maybe, and even then am wondering which things will really happen.It’s the best option of course, Labour getting two terms but people seem to have unrealistic hopes about what will change.

MaizieD

I'm afraid that a possible £1.6 billion is going to go absolutely nowhere . Far more than that will be needed for the NHS alone.

Labour are going to have to invest heavily in all the public sector alone before there will be any growth in the economy. Private sector won't invest unless they can see signs of growth.

So far, Labour's plans for the economy are going to fail if they think that the private sector has to invest before they can spend anything.

But then, no party is offering anything more economically literate.

I am still politically homeless.

I was hoping to be inspired by something/anything from Labour, so far my levels of inspiration are in the minus.

I'm afraid that a possible £1.6 billion is going to go absolutely nowhere . Far more than that will be needed for the NHS alone.

Labour are going to have to invest heavily in all the public sector alone before there will be any growth in the economy. Private sector won't invest unless they can see signs of growth.

So far, Labour's plans for the economy are going to fail if they think that the private sector has to invest before they can spend anything.

But then, no party is offering anything more economically literate.

Wasn't it Theresa May that coined the phrase' the magic money tree'. And can someone remind me how much money she 'found' to pay the DUP to prop up her decimated government?

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

Rachel Reeves was interviewed this morning, Ed Balls brought up a very good point. Labour have costed a lot of their plans on rescinding the Nom Dom Tax status which they estimate will bring in 1.6 billion to the treasury.

There is absolutely no guarantee that these wealthy individuals will pay up and remain U.K. taxpayers/citizens as opposed to upping sticks and moving abroad permanently.

Sir Starmer was repeatedly asked by Victoria Derbyshire on Sunday why he thinks under Labour that the U.K. will buck what is not only an Europe wide trend by World wide trend of slow/no growth. He is relying heavily on growing the economy to add to the money received or not from Nom Dom tax revenue.

I cannot see any difference between Labour & Conservative, Labour are relying on what are currently unknown amounts of revenue to fund their policies…

Honestly gg13 you can’t be serious!!

The difference between both conferences is profound, as are the policies.

Growth in the economy will be achieved by investment both by business and the government.

I think you need to wait until nearer the time of the election as Labour is still ensuring the cards are kept hidden for the Tories who are out of ideas as is obvious from their conference.

Starmer has said that the minute detail of policy will not be revealed until much nearer the election.

All we are getting at the moment is a broad brush view.

Both parties have the same soundbite ^growing the economy^

Both of them knowing g what needs doing does not mean both can do it. We do have 13 years of evidence that one party can't.