54 migrants rescued this morning in French waters are brought to UK

Primrose I am a bit younger than you I would guess and no, people don't ask me "Where are you from"

I sometimes get asked where I live

VioletSky

As I said

Asking anyone you perceive to not be from the UK where they are from is quite often considered rude

Some people were born in this country and are "from" here, some people have migrated here permanently and some people do not know their origins. Some people because they do not know a birth parent to ask them and some who simply do not know their origins the same way many of us don't because they can't trace their ancestry

And as the article explains it makes many people feel like they don't belong here despite living and working here or even having been born here. As if having Spanish great grandparents should mean I belong in Spain... Actually I am British thank you

Asking someone who is on vacation is different as is asking people what language they speak

But people who have moved to the UK to live and work and have permanent residency are now "from" here and there is absolutely no reason to ask what their ethnic origins are at all

And still you avoid my question! 😴

MayBee70

foxie48

What a vile thread this has become, talking about rescuing animals when people have died, discussing if British boats should rescue drowning people in French waters, Just vile. I'm out!

Me too. I need a break from this. I’m so ashamed to read some of this.

News reports say 6 of the men who drowned in the channel were from Afghanistan, said to be aged in their 30’s. Those rescued, including children were mostly from `Afghanistan. It’s entirely possible that if we had made it possible for people to apply for refugee status before arriving in the uk, these people may still be alive. How desperate they must be. It bring back the images of people hanging onto planes in their desperation to get out of Afghanistan when the Taliban took over

As I said

Asking anyone you perceive to not be from the UK where they are from is quite often considered rude

Some people were born in this country and are "from" here, some people have migrated here permanently and some people do not know their origins. Some people because they do not know a birth parent to ask them and some who simply do not know their origins the same way many of us don't because they can't trace their ancestry

And as the article explains it makes many people feel like they don't belong here despite living and working here or even having been born here. As if having Spanish great grandparents should mean I belong in Spain... Actually I am British thank you

Asking someone who is on vacation is different as is asking people what language they speak

But people who have moved to the UK to live and work and have permanent residency are now "from" here and there is absolutely no reason to ask what their ethnic origins are at all

It doesn’t surprise me - so much nastiness when so many agreeing with 30p Lee that they should all f*ck off.

BlueBelle

*Primrise you need to change your title it’s incorrect according to the BBC news
36 taken to France and 22 to England. Not quite what you were implying

If it will make you happy I will try but don’t really know how to.🤭

It WAS correct first thing this morning when I posted it but has altered as the day progressed which is always the case with any news item. I have explained this several times.

VioletSky

hbr.org/2020/10/whats-wrong-with-asking-where-are-you-from#:~:text=Here%20is%20the%20problem%3A%20For,to%20(already)%20belong%20here.

That’s one person’s opinion and yours and mine are equally valid.

I notice you didn’t answer my question about whether you have ever been asked where you’re from or where you live. I cannot believe there is a person alive who has not been asked that whether on a plane, a bus, coffee shop, hairdressers, on holiday, when you move to a new area etc.

Maybe some people just give off negative vibes or seem so uninteresting that people don’t know how to approach them. Wherever we go my husband says “who was that talking to you?” And I say “never seen them before in my life.” 🤣🤣

Bluebell don't let it stress you out too much

Some minds won't change

But plenty of people feel differently and thankfully, they are in charge of the rescue boats

Oh for goodness sake GSM these are human being not pieces of baggage where’s your heart ?
I agree Foxie it’s hideous
Does no body have any compassion any more
Yes VioletSky it is just as you put it all these people with not an ounce of heart for anyone not born here
I never knew there were so many hard hearted uncaring people here no wonder we ve gone to the dogs
Unbelievable ! And half of you go to church and call yourself Christians what about the Good Samaritan ummm as long as it’s not here eh

foxie48

What a vile thread this has become, talking about rescuing animals when people have died, discussing if British boats should rescue drowning people in French waters, Just vile. I'm out!

Me too. I need a break from this. I’m so ashamed to read some of this.

No it's not

What a vile thread this has become, talking about rescuing animals when people have died, discussing if British boats should rescue drowning people in French waters, Just vile. I'm out!

What a silly thing to say VS.

LovesBach

Can anyone understand why every photo seems to show boatloads of young men? What is happening to their families, their children, if they are fleeing such terrible conditions?

You’ll be pleased to know that someone did attempt to escape with a small child but the child drowned off the coast off Tunisia….that’ll teach’em won’t it….

Germanshepherdsmum

Bad enough though, as the boat was in French waters.

This is a bit like watching someone drown in a pool and saying "it's in next doors garden" not my problem

Is anybody saying Thank God they were rescued and didn’t drown like those other poor souls?
Sadly I am finding this thread very negative and dare I say, xenophobic?
Saddens me.

Bad enough though, as the boat was in French waters.

*Primrise you need to change your title it’s incorrect according to the BBC news
36 taken to France and 22 to England. Not quite what you were implying

hbr.org/2020/10/whats-wrong-with-asking-where-are-you-from#:~:text=Here%20is%20the%20problem%3A%20For,to%20(already)%20belong%20here.

Primrose53

Germanshepherdsmum

You makes your choice. Mine happens to be animals.

Right. We mainly choose local equine charities and we prefer to give feed, salt licks, hay and tack rather than cash.

Well it all helps. I think I support local equines by paying (to me) eye watering amounts for my DD and GD to go on outrides..ye Gods, the prices are horrific! 😳

VioletSky

I am a sensitive soul

It is my superpower

Surely someone, somewhere has asked where you are from or where you live? Waiters abroad always ask “german? French?English?” So they can give you the correct menu. Would that be classed as “rude”. 🤔

I am a sensitive soul

It is my superpower

And some of us choose to help refugees (and also cats)

Germanshepherdsmum

You makes your choice. Mine happens to be animals.

Right. We mainly choose local equine charities and we prefer to give feed, salt licks, hay and tack rather than cash.

Germanshepherdsmum

Of course. The difference is that in the UK they’re not rounded up and exterminated.

My current rescue was brought to the UK by a charity from Southern Ireland, where rescued dogs are kept for only a few days before being euthanised.

I get where you're coming from. My closest friend is all about her dogs and other dogs.

She's been to Romania and Greece, volunteering in rescue centres out there, and raises funds to bring dogs over here.

I don't quite get it, I think we've got enough rescue dogs over here anyway, but it's her passion and her money that helps, so up to her.

Good luck to her.👍