Asylum seekers unhappy at Stratford- upon- Avon Hotel

DiamondLily

According to reports out today, the government are giving police new powers to move on (and hassle), our homeless/rough sleepers, under this latest new anti-social behaviour crackdown.

If anyone is unhappy in a hotel, perhaps they could just swap with someone that's stuck in a shop doorway. I'm sure some of them would welcome being in a hotel.🙄

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/03/26/rishi-sunak-get-tough-anti-social-behaviour/

So all these homeless people that we could be spending money on and putting up in hotels - the government has decided to hassle them have they? Give them a hard time?

When will people see that the reason we have homeless people on the street and lack of services isn't that the money's being spent on asylum seekers, its that the government doesn't want to help them?

The UK welcomes genuine refugees Ukraine proves that, what we dont want is economic migrant arriving illegally, especially if they are connected to criminal gangs.

Those gransnetters who support all migrants should offer accommodation to a few poor abused Albanians who are going arrive at Dover today.

MaizieD

Primrose53

We are much smaller than countries like Germany, France and Spain for example.

As well as taking in people from all over the world we give billions in foreign aid too.

Let's be honest. We're just a nation of small minded, self centred, coldhearted racists, aren't we?

This^^

There's more of them than I thought there were MaizieD.

yes, Primrose, we give foreign aid. So do other countries.

Primrose53

We are much smaller than countries like Germany, France and Spain for example.

As well as taking in people from all over the world we give billions in foreign aid too.

Just looking at Germany...

number of refugees per head of population - 0.01
number of refugees per square km - 3.57

UK

number of refugees per head of population - 0.003
number of refugees per square km - 0.95

Foreign aid isn't the same as humanitarian assistance, but in any case, Germany gives €12bn a year and the UK gives £11bn

So, comparable foreign aid and whichever metric you use, Germany takes more refugees than us by any measure, even the irrelevant ones.

Instead of just believing what they tell you, why don't you actually look at the reality. If you just don't want the foreigners here, just say so, instead of trying to justify your ideas with made up stats.

I'll do Spain and France later if I can be bothered.

According to reports out today, the government are giving police new powers to move on (and hassle), our homeless/rough sleepers, under this latest new anti-social behaviour crackdown.

If anyone is unhappy in a hotel, perhaps they could just swap with someone that's stuck in a shop doorway. I'm sure some of them would welcome being in a hotel.🙄

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/03/26/rishi-sunak-get-tough-anti-social-behaviour/

I’m sure some people are complaining, we all do it.
I think the reason could be is because they believe all the gumf
written about getting a house, free medical / dental care/ schooling/ jobs for all.
And then reality kicks in.

Primrose53

We are much smaller than countries like Germany, France and Spain for example.

As well as taking in people from all over the world we give billions in foreign aid too.

Let's be honest. We're just a nation of small minded, self centred, coldhearted racists, aren't we?

We are much smaller than countries like Germany, France and Spain for example.

As well as taking in people from all over the world we give billions in foreign aid too.

If the asylum seekers were genuine and fleeing danger surely they would be grateful for any roof over their head. How they have the nerve to complain is a mystery to me.

I agree with time2go, AlanaV and Oreo.

Can somebody explain the rationale behind the idea that we should accept fewer migrants than other countries. Are we special somehow?

Miracles do happen

I'm not often speechless, yet here we are...

Cry me a river, no one asked them to come here. If it's so terrible where they lived why do they leave their women there? So what we have to do is dig up our countryside to build them homes!

May I suggest we show care and respect to everyone no matter where they were born, what race they are or what colour they are.

'Opinions' aren't sacred words that must never be challenged. I don't know why people think they are...

LRavenscroft

volver3

ALANaV

Then may I suggest they return from whence they came and let our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels with all found, instead !!!!!!!!!!1makes me furious at £6,000,000 a DAY which could be used to help our own first.....

May I suggest that we process their applications at a reasonable rate, the way we used to?

May I suggest that we take a minute proportion of all the asylum seekers who are in Europe?

May I suggest that the Tories are intentionally mis-managing this to fire up the hard-of-thinking?

May I suggest that there is enough money and resources to deal with UK people and with our obligations to the rest of the world, but the Tories don't want to do it?

May I suggest you don't know what you're talking about?

May I suggest that you show a little respect for ALANaV 's opinion about 'our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels'. Their opinion is as relevant as yours and anyone else on this board.

Ah, not the "opinion vs facts" chat again...

😉

MerylStreep

Albania. I imagine Bethany only showed the nice area’s.
Did she show the mammoth cannabis fields, the awful Roma ghettos.
I don’t suppose she mentioned how terrible racist they are towards the Roma.

www.vocativ.com/money/breadline/roma-albania-life-trash-heap/index.html

Yeah, we saw Hoxha's 170,000 nuclear bunkers, they were so nice.

Albania. I imagine Bethany only showed the nice area’s.
Did she show the mammoth cannabis fields, the awful Roma ghettos.
I don’t suppose she mentioned how terrible racist they are towards the Roma.

www.vocativ.com/money/breadline/roma-albania-life-trash-heap/index.html

Expressing concern for asylum seekers doesn’t exclude having concern for homeless people or veterans

volver3

ALANaV

Then may I suggest they return from whence they came and let our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels with all found, instead !!!!!!!!!!1makes me furious at £6,000,000 a DAY which could be used to help our own first.....

May I suggest that we process their applications at a reasonable rate, the way we used to?

May I suggest that we take a minute proportion of all the asylum seekers who are in Europe?

May I suggest that the Tories are intentionally mis-managing this to fire up the hard-of-thinking?

May I suggest that there is enough money and resources to deal with UK people and with our obligations to the rest of the world, but the Tories don't want to do it?

May I suggest you don't know what you're talking about?

May I suggest that you show a little respect for ALANaV 's opinion about 'our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels'. Their opinion is as relevant as yours and anyone else on this board.

Primrose / we can anticipate asylum seekers from Uganda in the near future. Their govt is planning to put homosexuals to death. I’ve seen no reference to a lesbian death penalty but maybe it’s implicit
Uganda was a British protectorate till the early 1960’s so English will be a familiar languages and the UK seen as safe haven

May I suggest that anyone from Albania, unless a woman or child or an actual family, is immediately sent back.Young fit men are leaving Albania and coming here to earn more money, economic migrants in other words.Germany sends them straight back, so should we.Albania is a safe country and doesn’t want to lose it’s own workforce.

Yes, Uganda.

volver3

£6 million a day on hotel accommodation, that's £2 billion a year.

Amount of our money that Baroness Mone ran off with which the Tory government gave her for PPE that didn't work? £29 billion.

Cost of track and trace that didn't work? £37 billion.

Get some perspective.

Well said!