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Gary Lineker's tweet

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GagaJo Wed 08-Mar-23 09:10:38

Did he just compare the language used by government to 1930s Germany? Or did he actually reference Nazi Germany?

Fleurpepper Fri 10-Mar-23 11:45:34

maddyone

It’s just the same isn’t it!

Posting those photos to make your point is just sick imho. Sick, and terrible misuse.

Dillonsgranma Fri 10-Mar-23 11:44:56

He’s just a self opinionated overpaid idiot. Who cares what he thinks !

LizIlkeston Fri 10-Mar-23 11:42:57

He's entitled to free speech. What he earns and working for the BBC is irrelevant. Many in Germany didn't speak out...sins of ommision are just as bad!

Fleurpepper Fri 10-Mar-23 11:42:24

GrannyGravy13

maddyone

It’s just the same isn’t it!

No it is not ^just the same^

No it isn't.

And he never ever said it was the same - he ASKED if the LANGUAGE was similar. And it is.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 10-Mar-23 11:41:30

Actually I would like to push back against the suggestion that if you criticise Israel you are somehow anti-Semitic.

Anyone is entitled to criticise the Israeli government policies. It is not in itself anti-Semitic. How can it be? The Israeli government is secular.

We are free to criticise any state in the world - including our own.

No one state holds special dispensation from criticism. That would be dangerous.

maddyone Fri 10-Mar-23 11:41:21

As you and I both know GrannyGravy, but it seems not all do.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 10-Mar-23 11:39:03

maddyone

It’s just the same isn’t it!

No it is not just the same

LizIlkeston Fri 10-Mar-23 11:38:36

He was saying the language was like 1930s in Germany. The propaganda was insidious, talking about "them" and "us".
The problem is GL's tweet and the nedia storm is a distraction from the actual Bill...it won't solve the problem and contravenes protection for asylum seekers. If there are limited safe and legal routes here, desperate people will do desperate things. It's just politicking to win favour before the election.

maddyone Fri 10-Mar-23 11:36:50

It’s just the same isn’t it!

Fleurpepper Fri 10-Mar-23 11:36:28

TanaMa

An over paid nobody, full of his own importance, his gross income partly funded by my O.A. pension! Can't stand the man.

Not really interested in your personal feelings about him- how about commenting on what he said instead.

Galaxy Fri 10-Mar-23 11:35:10

Attenborough often makes political statements as well, they might not be party political but they are political, same with Chris Packham, the problem the BBC has is that they have 'disciplined' people in the past, they arent consistent.

Fleurpepper Fri 10-Mar-23 11:33:56

Coco51

Whitewavemark2

“The problem for Braverman is Lineker is right. What she is saying and is doing does echo 1930s Germany and that is precisely why decent people are profoundly worried by what she is doing and where it is leading.”

Richard Murphy

Not unlike what the Israeli government is doing to Palestinians
No-one is in uproar about that

Oh yes we are, very many of us. Including many Jewish friends.

Wheniwasyourage Fri 10-Mar-23 11:27:15

Coco51

Whitewavemark2

“The problem for Braverman is Lineker is right. What she is saying and is doing does echo 1930s Germany and that is precisely why decent people are profoundly worried by what she is doing and where it is leading.”

Richard Murphy

Not unlike what the Israeli government is doing to Palestinians
No-one is in uproar about that

For a start, Coco51, plenty of people are "in uproar" (whatever that means) about the Israeli government is doing to Palestinians. Some Israelis and a lot of other people, although as usual, if you criticise Israel, you are called anti-semitic.

In any case, why should there not be "uproar" in more than one place at the same time? What our dreadful government are proposing to do to refugees, what the Russians are doing to Ukrainian civilians, what the North Korean government are doing to their own people - where do you want me to stop?

FannyCornforth Fri 10-Mar-23 11:24:48

Cossy - Rashford smile

Whitewavemark2 Fri 10-Mar-23 11:24:45

As luck would have it for the government, all the time this story is taking the headlines, we aren’t talking about

The NHS
The economy
The cost of living
Childcare costs
Fuel costs
Etc.

Lucky them.

FannyCornforth Fri 10-Mar-23 11:24:12

TanaMay he’s hardly ‘a nobody’.
He won The Golden Boot in the 1986 World Cup for being the highest goal scorer.

James OBrien has just been talking about another high profile, highly paid employee of the BBC - Sir Alan Sugar.
Sugar has regularly tweeted pro Conservative sentiments; in particular, full throatedly backing Johnson against Corbyn in the 2021 General Election

Cossy Fri 10-Mar-23 11:22:51

I agree with Gary Lineker - if the BBC want to suspend, punish or sack him he’ll happily take the consequences - people in public eye should stand up for their principles - just like Marcus Rashman (?) did over kids school meals (soz always forget his surname!)

NotTooOld Fri 10-Mar-23 11:20:53

Someone said 'I may not agree with what he says but I defend his right to say it'.

It's called free speech and we lose that at our peril. Think hard before taking sides.

jomo Fri 10-Mar-23 11:19:55

if he wants to make tweets ect. on politics give up his eye watering wage job at bbc and stand as a politician

how come FREE SPEECH is ok for him, but if any one else said anything outrageous get told off.

TanaMa Fri 10-Mar-23 11:17:54

An over paid nobody, full of his own importance, his gross income partly funded by my O.A. pension! Can't stand the man.

undines Fri 10-Mar-23 11:14:51

Excuse me, Lady Honoria - the Morris troupe to which I used to belong are for the most past alternative, left-wing, mostly pagan and even 'woke'. As for tea at the vicarage - it seems to me that there is a goodly share of left-wing lesbian vicars, who do not fit the right-wing, repressive model at all. This government are trying to appeal to the most basic xenophobic traits in the poorly-educated and poorly-paid. It's just one of their nasty tricks. They will have more up their sleeves, and I do fear they will get back in or at least achieve a hung parliament. Well-said Mr Lineker. What he says is accurate and sensible, and in my view he has a right to say it.

Coco51 Fri 10-Mar-23 11:13:57

Whitewavemark2

“The problem for Braverman is Lineker is right. What she is saying and is doing does echo 1930s Germany and that is precisely why decent people are profoundly worried by what she is doing and where it is leading.”

Richard Murphy

Not unlike what the Israeli government is doing to Palestinians
No-one is in uproar about that

gigi05 Fri 10-Mar-23 11:13:49

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Mar-23 19:40:20

But the point is none of those entering the U.K. are to be given permission and all to be deported regardless of what they have suffered.

There is a very powerful film with famous film and stage stars speaking against the governments illegal immigration bill.

Katie59 Thu 09-Mar-23 19:33:23

I hope all and expect that all those who enter the UK without permission are detained until their permission to stay is granted. If I tried to enter another country illegally I would get arrested and detained, this country being a soft touch has only encouraged more to come.

As for stopping the gangs trafficking migrants that’s going to be very hard and I doubt current ideas are going to work.

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