The Queen…

I thought this was supposed to be a thread to talk about the Queen, and not dig up the interminable quarrels over Harry and Meghan?

Thanks Cats
Yes, please start a separate thread. Volver has already started one about the Prince of Wales.
I’ll do it if need be!
H&M threads are always a lively proposition!

Why not the Sussex’s, the Cambridge’s have been brought into
this thread

CatsCatsCats

I thought this was supposed to be a thread to talk about the Queen, and not dig up the interminable quarrels over Harry and Meghan?

Or to attempt a discussion on how to create even more division and the legalities of an Englishman being Prince if Wales. The hatred (yes that’s what it is) runs deep with some.

I’ve done it, anyway

Anybody else find it hypocritical that the Royal Family can use H&M to make themselves look good. Either accept them back into the family fold and move on or leave them out of the meeting the commoners who leave flowers. Or do it at separate times. Don’t try to make it look like you are extending the olive branch and then make it awkward so it is obvious that there is still a problem.

tickingbird

CatsCatsCats

I thought this was supposed to be a thread to talk about the Queen, and not dig up the interminable quarrels over Harry and Meghan?

Or to attempt a discussion on how to create even more division and the legalities of an Englishman being Prince if Wales. The hatred (yes that’s what it is) runs deep with some.

Enough now. I've started a new thread.

Show some respect.

How was it made awkward? I expect H&M felt awkward because they know they have behaved dishonourably.

Can I make a suggestion? That those of us who want to talk about how we feel about the Queen, carry on doing so here, and those who can't help themselves from criticising other Royals and discussing constitutional matter go and do it on the threads specifically started on those topics?

Of course I'm not thread monitor, etc, etc....

The walkabout at Windsor looked somewhat forced. Harry with his hand across his tummy as he walks always looks like he is suffering from indigestion, and Meghan looked awkward and out of her depth. Did Catherine ever say anything to her?

The nation - and much of parts of the world - focused on the RF at the moment; William and Kate knowing full-well that Britain in particular is acutely aware of the sibling-rift; H&M aware that their every move is being scrutinised by the media and the people.

They had to appear in public - all four of them, together. Under the present circumstances, it was inevitable. Inevitable that they would have to put on a show of unity, and inevitable that each knew they were being closely watched by both the public and the press. It looked forced because it was. It's a pity they were not allowed to look at the tributes to the Queen - in privacy.

Volver

Enough now. I've started a new thread.

Show some respect.

Oh the irony!

Thanks Eveline for timetable. Very uplifting to see the respect that is being shown. I am finding the respect being paid to the cortege along the route very appropriate - the silence that is being observed as mark of respect rather than the clapping that is usual these days.

I wonder if the people who lined the barriers hoping to pay their respects viewed the tv footage when they returned home. Almost all of them had mobile phones and their behaviour was anything but respectful thrusting the phones into their faces. Offering their sympathy with one hand while filming with the other. It was cringeworthy.

I doubt there'll be barriers near us. I'll dress appropriately for the weather and stand in silence. It's very long road so I doubt we'll be closely packed.

Grannynannywanny - I was referring to the coverage of the cortege route today and the fact that there was no clapping or throwing of flowers which is quite often carried out by the public. Maybe that will come later upon arrival at the Scottish cities.

I agree Grayling1. I watched some of the coverage this morning as the cortege left Balmoral and proceeded through villages and towns. It was very peaceful and respectful. My earlier comments were referring to the walkabout by King Charles at Buckingham palace and William and Kate along with Harry and Meghan at Windsor.

The story behind the Queen's Bond appearance (2012 Olympics) and tea with Paddington.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/11/when-we-asked-queen-to-tea-with-paddington-something-magic-happened-most-lovely-goodbye

How was it Aveline? I have Just put tv on to see how lovely Scotland is, with plenty of room fir everyone to see the Queens cars as they drive by.

London is going to be very different. Crammed pavements 10 deep, tallest at the front usually ( I am 5’) so with a reasonably new hip I can’t risk it, wiser to stay home.

I'm feeling a bit homesick here in France today. I went to morning service at one of the few Anglican churches. I came out a bit early before the Communion part (by choice) and was interviewed in the church yard by a French radio station. I hope I said all the right things, I was feeling a bit disoriented to have to express my feelings of sorrow for The Queen in a foreign tongue.
Macron's tribute was beautiful.

Joseanne-well done for trying. I’m sure it will have been correct.

silverlining48 I'm just back from seeing the cortege pass. The road was very crowded and it's a very long one. Lots of young families trying to get their children to understand the significance of it. My youngest GS asked what he should do. I facetiously suggested that he could salute. He then saluted every motorbike outrider and vehicle in the cortege. One of the policemen nodded back which made his day.
It was running about half an hour late but the atmosphere was very nice. Everyone talking to everyone else. Selfies galore which I wasn't keen on but that's modern life.

Amalegra

At heart I am a Republican. However I do believe that for the foreseeable future the UK is best served by a monarchy. There are checks and balances in the system we have at present which aim to prevent the abuse of power by an individual and which protect the personal freedoms we hold dear. With the recent furore accompanying the election of a new Conservative party leader, I dread to think how a presidential election would pan out! And then a Head of State with executive powers or not? I regret the elitist class system which promotes division in society but even Republics have a variety of this! Best keep as it is at the moment provided our monarch shows the same dedication and moral integrity as our late lamented Queen. A little more egalitarian approach as per Scandinavian royalty would be welcome though!

Good post!
My partner is Scandinavian - and a Republican. His reaction to the news that she had died was genuine sadness - he said that he'd really hoped she'd live to see 100 and would receive millions of cards congratulating HER on reaching the centenary!

Aveline thanks fir the update, you must be very happy to have been able to witness the last journey of the queen and explain to your gs a little of what was going on. If he’s old enough he will remember this day and his granny too.

I’m toying with the idea of travelling to Edinburgh on Tuesday as The Queen won’t be leaving till later in the day. I know it will be packed and I doubt if I’ll get into the Cathedral. But I’ve got a very busy day on Wednesday and I get tired these days.

MayBe70. Have you seen the photos of the crowds? The whole area is jam packed. Very long queues are to be expected. I seriously think you might be best watching it all from home. Don't make yourself unwell.