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Are any of you guilty of nimbyism - objecting to solar farms?
(214 Posts)The following extract from a report in today's Guardian.
Solar farms are being refused planning permission in Great Britain at the highest rate in five years, analysis has found, with projects which would have cut £100m off annual electricity bills turned down in the past 18 months.
Planning permission for 23 solar farms was refused across England, Wales and Scotland between January 2021 and July 2022, which could have produced enough renewable energy to power an estimated 147,000 homes annually, according to analysis of government figures by the planning and development consultancy Turley.
The refusals have jumped significantly since the start of 2021 – the research found only four projects were refused planning permission during 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 combined.
Of the 27 declined solar farms between 2019 and 2022, 19 are in Conservative constituencies. Four were in Labour constituencies, three in Scottish National party constituencies, and one in a Liberal Democrat constituency.
There are fears such refusals could increase further as the Tory leadership contenders, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, have made disparaging comments about solar farms.
South-west and eastern England had the highest number of refusals in the last 18 months, with four projects turned down in each region. Wales, the West Midlands and Scotland each had three refusals, while the east Midlands, north-east and south-east of England each had two planning applications turned down.
Analysts at the thinktank Green Alliance said the rejected projects were large solar farms at an average of about 30MW each, which may account for the planning refusals as it is easier to get smaller farms approved.
However, it added that this should not be a reason to refuse planning permission, as larger solar farms could cut bills further.
It said the refused solar farms could have cut about £100m off Great Britain’s electricity bills this year.
Tamayra
With Tesla technology you can fuel your house from a shoe box size device for free
It’s coming ladies Solar devices will not be needed
And the source of the energy is...?
With Tesla technology you can fuel your house from a shoe box size device for free
It’s coming ladies Solar devices will not be needed 
My issue with solar farms is that they can replace agricultural land.
We are an island nation, I don't understand we we don't invest in tidal power.
knspol
Not exactly on point but I have been considering solar panels on my roof and wonder if any of you gransnetters who already have them have had problems with the wind getting under them or of birds or bats nesting underneath?
I've had them on my roof for about 8 years and they have been totally trouble-free. I can't say I've examined them closely for bird or bat nests, but if they are nesting there I'm delighted to be providing extra habitat for them!
At the moment with the dramatic increase in price for power, I'm seriously thinking of having a battery installed so that I can use all the power they produce,
My only objection to solar farms is when they are put on good farm land which could otherwise be producing foodstuffs or grazing for livestock. We should also be covering the roofs of buildings on ugly industrial estates with solar panels too. And all new build houses should have solar panels on their roofs as part of the planning requirements.
We have to face facts and go with clean energy options. We have tens of thousands of square miles of countryside in the UK (the total area of the UK is approx 95,960 sq mi). Surely a lot more of it could be put over to Solar and wind farms. Of course our National Trust and Special sites of Scientific interest and of course popular beauty spots should be protected. Sdaly legislation changes of time (e.g. see how the green blts are shriking at a rapidly growing rate)
I do think it is essential that we become more reliable on such projects. I did an environmental Masters degree and looked at various forms of clean energy ranging from the ones we are familiar with, i.e. wind and solar energy, but there's also other types such as the gravity forms that harness the moons pull on the earth through our tides. Large containers that fill up when the tide is in fixed to the sides of cliffs give a decent amount of hydro electricity as does the tide barriers that you place across large bays (Morecambe bay was once considered for this back in the 1980's but nothing came of it). Then there's Geothermal energy that can be used. We've considered having our garden ripped up to take advantage of the latent heat that can be used to heat our water, but decided it wasn't practical as our garden is only around 90'x90' at the back and about half that size at the front. The cost is prohibitive, but in the long run; especially now with ever increasing energy bills it may be practical.
We've just had solar panels put up. I was pleasantly surprised at the design. The latest ones seem less obtrusive than older versions.
The non-renewable resources such as oil are needed for more important things than fuel for cars, (e.g. the paharacutical industry and other uses)
GrauntyHelen
If Truss and Sunak are against them then I am all for them
Irrational as it is, I feel the same way!
If Truss and Sunak are against them then I am all for them
If Truss and Sunak are against spamming hem I'm all for them !
Och no. Come on now folks.
Not nuclear. Not nuclear, please. Out of the frying pan into the fire. The nuclear fire. The radioactive fire that we have no idea how to deal with. The fire that stores up problems for future generations that nobody knows how to deal with.
("Fire" being used metaphorically, before anyone tells me its not really a fire.)
Unless somebody can convince me otherwise?
Why isn't more being made of tidal power? We have a huge tidal range around our coast which operates twice a day.. Turbines under the water would not affect the bird population
A solar farm has been built just a few hundred yards away from where I live, it was permitted even though we have a Tory council and it is excellent and does not harm us at all, not anything like as much as the sewage farm next door to it which has always been there whose pong locally is horrid when the wind blows that way. Solar farms and wind turbines and nuclear power plants are essential. Get them built
There is a huge industrial park begin built near me for the life of me I can't understand why the planners can insist that all new builds have solar panels on the vast roofs
I think it's important we accept them even if they are in our line of sight. I wonder if they would look better if they were green. I am looking at some on hills in the distance and I'm sure they would be less conspicuous if they toned into countryside better.
New Houses being built within a 5 minute walk from where I live, 421
Of them we fought it we lost after it went to parliament. Across the lane a huge field could take 600 houses Bellway have first refusal. I would much rather solar panels.
At least they don't clog up the roads with extra cars there's no schools, Doctors, any kind of infrastructure so yes I would love solar panels.
Since WW2 50% of the hedgerows have been removed. After the war farmers were paid to remove them to enable easier cultivation.
As I was brought up in1950s/60s Essex I remember all that. When I first went to Normandy I had a shock of recognition, all those little fields surrounded by hedges, just like the Essex fields of my early childhood were.
Now, of course, they are dustbowls, that light sandy soil blows away very easily. They must be expensive and difficult to keep profitable.
Janetashbolt
Why are new houses STILL not being built with solar panels, small turbines, grey water collection etc
No political will to do it from our current government.
Why are new houses STILL not being built with solar panels, small turbines, grey water collection etc
Nagmad2016
I think we all have to accept that our landscapes will change dramatically as more solar and wind farms are established. As much as I love our lovely countryside, and rambling, green fields, we have already seen our landscape changed by acres of poly tunnels. It is a changing world and if we want the convenience of home grown power, we have to concede some things. This is the way of the modern world.
Prior to polytunnels we saw the destruction of our lovely countryside, particularly in East Anglia, by the removal of miles and miles of hedgerows.
Since WW2 50% of the hedgerows have been removed. After the war farmers were paid to remove them to enable easier cultivation.
60% of those remaining are in poor condition despite incentives to improve them.
Some farmers are looking after them and also leaving wide margins for wildlife.
There won't be much of a view for anybody if we don't start getting clever about clean fuels. Why anybody would complain about solar panels on somebody's roof is beyond me. If everybody had them, they would just be part and parcel of the scenery just like tiles did once upon a time. We would just get used to it.
They are much better for wildlife than growing crops that demand fertiliser, insecticide and herbicides.
I’ve been delighted at the increase in birds, butterflies, bees and other insects after the field near me became a solar farm. All the land is covered in wild flowers.
Agree!!
We need our greenfield to feed livestock,birds insects etc wildlife, and grow crops for human and fodder for sheep cattle dairy beef..solar panels on every possible building, not on green fields
On a purely personal level, I'd love to have solar panels on my south-facing roof but we're not allowed as it's a listed building. We're not even allowed double glazing, in spite of showing the planning people that it would look no different from how it does now.
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