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My teenage daughters frequently tell me of incidents at school.
A friend with short hair called "trans" as an insult and other older slurs I wont repeat, girls wearing trousers the same, girls who dont shave body hair or wear makeup the same.
One girl who uses a cubicle to change instead of the communal area had frequent banging on the door and shouting that she was hiding a (think rude word for penis). She is just shy.
Teenagers, some gay, some not, bullied as too masculine or feminine presenting and too different to be accepted into the rather rigid and narrow constraints in what is fashionable.
It's a wide spread issue: www.beyondbullying.com/transphobic-bullying
Far too many LGBTQ being bullied in secondary school, others bullied as LGBTQ when they aren't, or because their friend is or because they are supportive to LGBTQ.
Yet my son at university reports nothing of the sort. He says people are all very friendly and accepting towards LGBTQ.
So my question is this:
What can we do as adults to prevent our minor impressionable youth from bullying someone over a perceived difference that has nothing to do with their character or worth?
Can we conduct our conversations in private and public in such a way that it is clear that bullying someone for their gender identity, their friends or allies is never acceptable?
Can we help to prevent something that damages mental health and physical health over time and sadly sometimes causes suicide?
What are your thoughts?
I think lots of us are Galaxy. But sex seems to be a dirty word even to the NHS these days.
Why is it called feminism if it isn't for female rights and equality? Shouldn't it be called everyoneism, or even humanism?
as I had my ovaries removed 37 years ago, I'm wondering what gender I now am, to the NHS
Rosie51 is right.
If you consult the NHS about something specifically female you will be a uterus-haver etc.
Otherwise, you and everyone else will be persons.
That, of course, means there's no need for the NHS to even think about the fact that symptoms can be different depending on the patient's sex, and that most treatments have been developed based on male people with little or no attention to female people.
Rosie51
DiamondLily But, as I had my ovaries removed 37 years ago, I'm wondering what gender I now am, to the NHS.
If you are an 'owner' or 'haver' of a uterus, cervix, vagina or vulva, then I believe you can be included within the appropriate grouping. If by chance you no longer have any element on that list then I fear you are without gender, sorry.
Well, I've got two out of four of them. I lost the "nursery facilities", but kept the playground.. .?
But, thank you for the advice. I can confidently reassure my DH I am not genderless after all...?
No wonder those who don't have English as a first language are getting confused. Our so called Equality laws aren't working too well for them with the NHS.?
Feminism is the equality of the sexes, social, political, personal etc and thus covers everyone
Some people do exclude trans people from that but I don't
Yes women as everyone's mother. All other groups can fight for their own interests but not women.
Doodledog
*They would naturally come under the heading of disability issues Doodledog something which all schools have policies on and should a child be enrolled with any particular condition something which schools are legally bound to deal with.*
Just as they are legally bound and have policies to deal with racism, however few children in the school are likely to suffer from it.
Are you really as unaware of the racism which black people have suffered and are still suffering*Doodledog*?
The figures are actually increasing, although proper figures are difficult to discover because there is no responsibility now for schools to report either racism or bullying incidents
www.theguardian.com/education/2021/mar/28/uk-schools-record-more-than-60000-racist-incidents-five-years
VioletSky
Feminism is the equality of the sexes, social, political, personal etc and thus covers everyone
Some people do exclude trans people from that but I don't
The official definition::
"Feminism is a range of socio-political movements and ideologies that aim to define and establish the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes.
Feminism incorporates the position that society prioritizes the male point of view and that women are treated unjustly in these societies."
Well, I've got two out of four of them. I lost the "nursery facilities", but kept the playground.. .?
Love it! Thanks for the biggest laugh I've had today. 
I'm an intersectional feminist
Glorianny
Doodledog
They would naturally come under the heading of disability issues Doodledog something which all schools have policies on and should a child be enrolled with any particular condition something which schools are legally bound to deal with.
Just as they are legally bound and have policies to deal with racism, however few children in the school are likely to suffer from it.Are you really as unaware of the racism which black people have suffered and are still suffering*Doodledog*?
The figures are actually increasing, although proper figures are difficult to discover because there is no responsibility now for schools to report either racism or bullying incidents
www.theguardian.com/education/2021/mar/28/uk-schools-record-more-than-60000-racist-incidents-five-years
Anti Semitism is increasing rapidly in schools as well.
Which suggests many schools just aren't great at controlling bullying - whatever type it is.?.
www.thejc.com/news/news/hate-soars-at-uk-schools-classroom-antisemitism-triples-in-five-years-report-says-1h2QsuutdjOgHvdDiMiDoK?reloadTime=1660919465203
My feminism involves campaigning for women, if I am giving money say for mens mental health I am not involved in feminism. This doesnt mean I dont do that it's just not feminism.
That's why I prefer intersectional feminism
All lives matter kind of thing.
Galaxy
All lives matter kind of thing.
Exactly! And the same arguments are used by the proponents of that slogan as the intersectional feminists who include mens' rights in their call to arms.
When I first got involved in feminism, in the early 70's, it had a basic ambition.
Women were seen as "less" than men then. The movement wanted to push for women, regardless of their culture, status, class etc. to be treated equally to men.
In the workplace, in the home, in finance, in housing and so on.
It was basic, simple, worthwhile and men weren't involved as such.
It's just looking like men have, yet again, integrated themselves into a female movement, which sort of defeats the original purpose.?
Glorianny
Doodledog
They would naturally come under the heading of disability issues Doodledog something which all schools have policies on and should a child be enrolled with any particular condition something which schools are legally bound to deal with.
Just as they are legally bound and have policies to deal with racism, however few children in the school are likely to suffer from it.Are you really as unaware of the racism which black people have suffered and are still suffering*Doodledog*?
The figures are actually increasing, although proper figures are difficult to discover because there is no responsibility now for schools to report either racism or bullying incidents
www.theguardian.com/education/2021/mar/28/uk-schools-record-more-than-60000-racist-incidents-five-years
Are you really as unaware of the racism which black people have suffered and are still sufferingDoodledog?
No. Very aware.
You are the one who suggested that there may be small numbers of children from what you described as 'different racial heritage' in some schools in your post of 12.23 today, and asked if I was suggesting that it wasn't necessary to teach about racial equality in those schools, and questioned whether numbers counted in equality, and whether a number of children being bullied was worse than one child.
I think it was one of your Gotchas.
Did you forget about that when you launched another rather silly Gotcha, suggesting that I am unaware of racism? Either that was a deliberately provocative insult, or you really think that you are the only person to know about anything to do with feminism, racism, discourse analysis or pretty much anything else that is dragged into these threads. You aren't - all of us know bout these things, and you might want to consider how it makes you look when you suggest otherwise.
Gosh it is the opposite of "All lives matter" completely
Maybe people should read up on it?
My one group has 2.9 Million members
No it's exactly all lives matter. We know what it is.
No it's not galaxy but I understand that's your opinion
Here read this galaxy
denison.edu/academics/womens-gender-studies/feature/67969
Maybe you should 'read up on' All Lives Matter, VS.
It is something that took an existing movement and altered it to include those who were responsible for discriminating against those in the original one.
Ring any bells?
BLM is included in intersectional femisim doodledog
Thank you for trying to explain to me as intersecrional feminist what it means, would you also like to tell me how to do my job as a teaching assistant or otherwise narrate my life to suit your opinion of me?
Me: I think I better start cooking dinner.
You: and here we see a VioletSky in her natural environment, boiling the heads of her enemies
Me: I think I better start cooking dinner.
You: and here we see a VioletSky in her natural environment, boiling the heads of her enemies
Don't you get tired of making up these silly exchanges? They make you look daft and just lie about Doodledog
Of course feminism should include all women / female people.
So it includes female transmen and female non-binary people and female people who identify as anything else and it doesn't include male people, however they identify.
I don't know where this idea that I am narrating your life comes from, VS Are you feeling quite well?
I wasn't explaining BLM - I was pointing out that All Lives Matter took the original movement, which had a particular purpose for a particular group, and appropriated it for their own ends, using the nomenclature to make it sound similar and inclusive but actually including the very people that BLM was formed to protect against.
This is exactly what so-called 'Intersectional feminism' does. It has hitched itself to the feminist cause, and included those who want to damage the rights of women, whilst using the original name to make it sound non-threatening.
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