Every seven minutes a private renter in England is given eviction notice even though they have done nothing wrong.

Joseanne

^You were fortunate to inheritJoseanneas many people are, but unfortunately there'll always be those who are envious.^
Thank you Smileless.

I didn't inherit much at all neither did DH. However, we were lucky to have our parents with us for a bit longer than you, Joseanne, although in my case only until I was 40.

It must have been difficult, money and property would never have made up for the loss.

If you inherit a property the likelihood is that you will have to spend a fair bit of money bringing it up to an acceptable standard for tenants and replacing white goods, carpets etc. Old people are not known for keeping their properties up to letting standard. You’re then expected to rent it out for no more than local social housing rents. Three words: Why Would You?

nadateturbe

Having as secure home is a basic need and in a rich country, which the UK is, everybody should be able to have that need fulfilled. If the private market fails to to meet the need, the state must step in. It won't because too many people have selfish interests

No one is envious. Why is that always assumed?? Inherited property - no excuse at all for charging more than local authorities charge.

i completely agree with you

With one of my tenants, I reduced the rent by £100 a week on the agreement that she gave our daughter two GCSE Biology lessons a week. Win win all round. Our DD was furious, but passed her exam with a good grade and in later years looked after the tenant's baby!

I repeat, no one is envious. You are allowed to evict a tenant and sell, but should you? Should you charge rents they can't afford?
Should we all not care about each other more?
Did you read my link?

Last post. As far as I'm concerned I've a duty to others.

You were fortunate to inheritJoseanneas many people are, but unfortunately there'll always be those who are envious.
Thank you Smileless.

growstuff

Joseanne

I think I said earlier I have never bought a buy to let. The three properties I have were inherited.

You were lucky. You have assets you didn't even work for.

I couldn't have worked for two of the houses I inherited. I was barely 20 and not long left school. I didn't count myself lucky to lose both parents within 6 months.
I'm not looking for sympathy, this isn't about me,
but I am trying to show that private landlords come by the properties in many different ways and are entitled to sell them at any time they need to. They shouldn't all be tarred with the same brush.

Having as secure home is a basic need and in a rich country, which the UK is, everybody should be able to have that need fulfilled. If the private market fails to to meet the need, the state must step in. It won't because too many people have selfish interests

No one is envious. Why is that always assumed?? Inherited property - no excuse at all for charging more than local authorities charge.

I didn't say we hadn't made a profit growstuff did I and don't put words into my mouth or accuse me of smugness and selfishness.

You don't have to be grateful for the likes of us private landlords but perhaps thankful that you have a decent place to live and a decent landlord. As you're so quick to point out, not every one's as fortunate.

You were fortunate to inherit Joseanne as many people are, but unfortunately there'll always be those who are envious.

Smileless2012

What's whether or not we've made a profit got to do with it growstuff? Or is it that a private landlord who is now making a small increase on the rent charged for the first time in 10 years, doesn't fit in with the money grabbing, doesn't care about anyone but themselves landlord stereotype some are so desperate to portray

No one's going on about hard done by they are Frogs, just some of us talking about our experiences as private landlords.

We are not a BTL business by any means. We had excellent tenants in the bungalow we rented out before selling it 2 years ago, just not as lucky with the flat.

So buying a property to let out didn't sit right with (you) somehow Frogs; fair enough, your choice, we made different choices and with the lack of social housing it's a good thing that there are private landlords or where would some people be living?

It's difficult not to make a profit with property in the current market.

Germanshepherdsmum

Not at all. Sell with vacant possession to an owner occupier. Invest the proceeds in something else. One fewer rental property available.

How on earth can you persist with this idea? It's just daft. The property won't be knocked down. It will be sold to another BTL landlord or become available for an owner-occupier to buy.

Joseanne

What I took from AlanAV's comment nadateturbe was the comment, "if I had to ask them to leave I would have felt terrible." It shows that most landlords are not ogres just thinking about themselves. There can be divided loyalties, take the case I mentioned earlier when our DD fell on hard times and we needed to ask a lovely tenant to leave so we could have the property back, or we would have sold it to give her the money. Tough decisions can be emotional for both parties. It's jot just about lining the pockets.

The people crying crocodile tears aren't homeless.

Joseanne

I think I said earlier I have never bought a buy to let. The three properties I have were inherited.

You were lucky. You have assets you didn't even work for.

Smileless2012

What's whether or not we've made a profit got to do with it growstuff? Or is it that a private landlord who is now making a small increase on the rent charged for the first time in 10 years, doesn't fit in with the money grabbing, doesn't care about anyone but themselves landlord stereotype some are so desperate to portray

No one's going on about hard done by they are Frogs, just some of us talking about our experiences as private landlords.

We are not a BTL business by any means. We had excellent tenants in the bungalow we rented out before selling it 2 years ago, just not as lucky with the flat.

So buying a property to let out didn't sit right with (you) somehow Frogs; fair enough, your choice, we made different choices and with the lack of social housing it's a good thing that there are private landlords or where would some people be living?

So very grateful Smileless to the likes of you. Otherwise, I guess I would be living on a park bench. What happened to the idea of working hard and being honest and deserving some reward, such as a secure reward over one's head? I guess tenants don't deserve the comfort and smugness of some owner-occupiers.

Having as secure home is a basic need and in a rich country, which the UK is, everybody should be able to have that need fulfilled. If the private market fails to to meet the need, the state must step in. It won't because too many people have selfish interests.

with the lack of social housing it's a good thing that there are private landlords or where would some people be living?

this has been answered

Yes. Shared facilities.

Or one room in an HMO GSM.

Park benches and bedsits.

What's whether or not we've made a profit got to do with it growstuff? Or is it that a private landlord who is now making a small increase on the rent charged for the first time in 10 years, doesn't fit in with the money grabbing, doesn't care about anyone but themselves landlord stereotype some are so desperate to portray

No one's going on about hard done by they are Frogs, just some of us talking about our experiences as private landlords.

We are not a BTL business by any means. We had excellent tenants in the bungalow we rented out before selling it 2 years ago, just not as lucky with the flat.

So buying a property to let out didn't sit right with (you) somehow Frogs; fair enough, your choice, we made different choices and with the lack of social housing it's a good thing that there are private landlords or where would some people be living?

Thank you Frogs.
I understand there may be an unforeseen reason for having to sell. I think I would have to give a very long period of notice in those circumstances. My own daughter would most likely refuse to move in.
But no excuse whatever for high rents.
How we treat each other is important.

I think I said earlier I have never bought a buy to let. The three properties I have were inherited.

nadateturbe

Frogs it's not only pensioners who have problems paying high private rents. Housing allowance often won't cover it. It causes so much hardship.
You say it’s not the private landlords problem. Oh but it is. If you can't afford to rent out property at a reasonable rate then you shouldn't be doing it. It's ridiculous what some private landlords charge.

I'm glad you brought up how letting a property you own, and asking a tenant to leave, affects a landlord emotionally tooALANaV
No point in having a conscience if you don't act on it.

I’m with you on this one nadateturbe - we could have bought a property to rent out some years ago but it didn’t sit right with us somehow. Houses being snapped up by BTL businesses have pushed house prices up out of the reach of a lot of people who now have to privately rent, that’s my opinion. But as soon as this subject is up for discussion the BTL businesses go on about how hard done by they are.

What I took from AlanAV's comment nadateturbe was the comment, "if I had to ask them to leave I would have felt terrible." It shows that most landlords are not ogres just thinking about themselves. There can be divided loyalties, take the case I mentioned earlier when our DD fell on hard times and we needed to ask a lovely tenant to leave so we could have the property back, or we would have sold it to give her the money. Tough decisions can be emotional for both parties. It's jot just about lining the pockets.

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It will only get worse if landlords’ rights to obtain possession are further restricted.