Every seven minutes a private renter in England is given eviction notice even though they have done nothing wrong.

nadateturbe

Having as secure home is a basic need and in a rich country, which the UK is, everybody should be able to have that need fulfilled. If the private market fails to to meet the need, the state must step in. It won't because too many people have selfish interests

No one is envious. Why is that always assumed?? Inherited property - no excuse at all for charging more than local authorities charge.

i completely agree with you

If you inherit a property the likelihood is that you will have to spend a fair bit of money bringing it up to an acceptable standard for tenants and replacing white goods, carpets etc. Old people are not known for keeping their properties up to letting standard. You’re then expected to rent it out for no more than local social housing rents. Three words: Why Would You?

Joseanne

^You were fortunate to inheritJoseanneas many people are, but unfortunately there'll always be those who are envious.^
Thank you Smileless.

I didn't inherit much at all neither did DH. However, we were lucky to have our parents with us for a bit longer than you, Joseanne, although in my case only until I was 40.

It must have been difficult, money and property would never have made up for the loss.

Thank you Callistemon. I would have given up the lot for my mum to have seen my first born.
I was an only child with little business acumen at the time so certainly wasn't wanting to make lots of money out of tenants. I paid a fair amount to an agent, an accountant and the solicitor dealing with it all. Just saying to make some posters aware of the costs beyond replacing and redecorating. Being a private landlord isn't a get rich quick option.

Joseanne

Thank you Callistemon. I would have given up the lot for my mum to have seen my first born.
I was an only child with little business acumen at the time so certainly wasn't wanting to make lots of money out of tenants. I paid a fair amount to an agent, an accountant and the solicitor dealing with it all. Just saying to make some posters aware of the costs beyond replacing and redecorating. Being a private landlord isn't a get rich quick option.

Yes, paying an agent isn't cheap either.
Friends of ours let out a house they had lived in when they moved on.
Wealthy? She a care worker, devoted her life to looking after other people's disabled children, he was a lorry driver.
They did it privately to recommended tenants at a reasonable rent. All fine until the last tenant, recommended by an acquaintance, begged them to let it to him, he had left a disastrous relationship. He took it out on the house and wrecked it.
A lesson learned.

Well I had said I wasn't posting again, but I thought I had better answer Joseanne.
Of course, an inheritance and money would never make up for the loss of your parents, Joseann, and at such a young age. I cannot begin to imagine how hard that must have been for you.
You are obviously a caring landlord.
And it appears there are others who charge a reasonable rent, thankfully.

Thank you for taking the time nadateturbe.
I no longer own the London property but you got me thinking about rents and I checked the property out online. It was available to rent in 2020 for a shocking £2,400 a month for a modest 3 bed. That does seem like taking advantage but I guess there is the demand in certain locations and so it goes on.
On those Homes under the Hammer type programmes there are often prospective landlords looking to buy properties to do up to let. I often wonder whether to some extent if these programmes are responsible for encouraging some less caring landlords who are greedy.

That is a lot Joseanne although I think London prices are generally much higher than elsewhere.

Where I live council rent is half of the average private rental.
You may have a point about HutH. I get annoyed when a buyer leaves a dingy property unchanged, is told he will have a whopping return, and think of the poor unlucky person/s for whom it will be home...for a while.
Anyway I'm off. Have a nice day.?

nadateturbe

That is a lot Joseanne although I think London prices are generally much higher than elsewhere.

Where I live council rent is half of the average private rental.
You may have a point about HutH. I get annoyed when a buyer leaves a dingy property unchanged, is told he will have a whopping return, and think of the poor unlucky person/s for whom it will be home...for a while.
Anyway I'm off. Have a nice day.?

A council property tenant typically pays about a third of the cost of a private tenant in my area. When I was researching applying for a council property, I couldn't believe how cheap they are, compared with what I am paying.

You're right that there are BTL landlords who think they can let out a property just as it is and all the rent is theirs to keep. They expect a property to be returned just as it was and don't take wear and tear into account. For example, a property which has been let to the same tenants for five years should have all its carpets replaced and will need redecorating anyway.

The situation with council housing is really sad. Councils could have borrowed money to build at very low interest rates over the last few years and would not have had to pay back the loans for decades. The rents could have been charged to cover the loan repayments plus maintenance and admin and would have been less than private landlords charge because they would not have expected to make a profit. The availability and low cost of council housing would have forced down private rentals and housing inflation generally. Of course, there are people in power who are very happy for housing price inflation to continue.

growstuff, how can you expect all the carpets to be changed after five years and still want a low rent to be charged? Have you never heard of having carpets professionally cleaned?

Germanshepherdsmum

*growstuff*, how can you expect all the carpets to be changed after five years and still want a low rent to be charged? Have you never heard of having carpets professionally cleaned?

Yes, but that's what my ex-hubby does and he still makes a profit. That's what a professional adviser would tell you. A medium-range carpet has a life expectancy of five years.

I would expect more wear than that from it.

My next-door-neighbour replaces all the carpets replaces all the carpets and redecorates after every tenancy. Not surprisingly, she's always had happy tenants, who look after the property well. The current one has spent hours turning the garden into a little oasis.

Germanshepherdsmum

I would expect more wear than that from it.

Well, you're obviously not a professional landlord and are expecting too much.

Sounds like the tenants have better surroundings than a lot of owner occupiers. And still moan.

I’m not a landlord growstuff, by choice.

growstuff

My next-door-neighbour replaces all the carpets replaces all the carpets and redecorates after every tenancy. Not surprisingly, she's always had happy tenants, who look after the property well. The current one has spent hours turning the garden into a little oasis.

I think it depends on the length of the tenancy. One of the tenants in my house stayed a year and one month. Replacing all the carpets annually is ridiculous.

The second tenant in my house stayed five years. Of course those carpets needed replacing.

My landlord friend does say to treat tenants very well though. It is his rule. But it doesn't guarantee that his property won't be trashed. It's happened to him a couple of times.

My daughter rents her flat out because she can't sell it (short lease left on it) and it's a one bedroom, so she can't live there with grandson. The tenant has been there for 5 years. No complaints. We don't interfere with the property at all. Free and clear use of her home, as it should be.

The expenses are tax deductible.

GagaJo

growstuff

My next-door-neighbour replaces all the carpets replaces all the carpets and redecorates after every tenancy. Not surprisingly, she's always had happy tenants, who look after the property well. The current one has spent hours turning the garden into a little oasis.

I think it depends on the length of the tenancy. One of the tenants in my house stayed a year and one month. Replacing all the carpets annually is ridiculous.

The second tenant in my house stayed five years. Of course those carpets needed replacing.

My landlord friend does say to treat tenants very well though. It is his rule. But it doesn't guarantee that his property won't be trashed. It's happened to him a couple of times.

My daughter rents her flat out because she can't sell it (short lease left on it) and it's a one bedroom, so she can't live there with grandson. The tenant has been there for 5 years. No complaints. We don't interfere with the property at all. Free and clear use of her home, as it should be.

But Gagajo even if the carpet needed total replacement after a year, you would not be able to claim the whole amount from the damage deposit because there's a sliding scale. You should reckon on between 10-15% of the rent for maintenance and replacements such as carpets. Carpets aren't that expensive and a single carpet is probably a fraction of one month's rent and is tax deductible. It's good practice to get tenants to move into a pristine property because it's easier to calculate wear and tear or actual damage.

Oh I wasn't thinking about the deposit growstuff. Just the waste really of the quantity of stuff if a carpet was chucked out, annually. I have a friend who replaces her carpets every 3 or so years when she redecorates and I always shudder at the wastefulness.

GagaJo

Oh I wasn't thinking about the deposit growstuff. Just the waste really of the quantity of stuff if a carpet was chucked out, annually. I have a friend who replaces her carpets every 3 or so years when she redecorates and I always shudder at the wastefulness.

Exactly, especially as we are all being encouraged to do whatever we can to save the planet.

Carpets and white goods going straight to landfill…

So would I. All that landfill …

This won't help:

''Housing Secretary, Michael Gove, has triggered a storm with plans to scrap rules that force developers to build affordable homes.

Section 106 regulations ensure that modestly priced properties and community projects are included in large building programmes.

But proposals to be outlined in the Queen’s Speech are set to cut the number affordable homes by 50,000 over 10 years.

Mr Gove is planning to replace the scheme with a building levy which would be paid to local authorities."

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/michael-gove-plans-scrap-rules-26841507

GagaJo

Oh I wasn't thinking about the deposit growstuff. Just the waste really of the quantity of stuff if a carpet was chucked out, annually. I have a friend who replaces her carpets every 3 or so years when she redecorates and I always shudder at the wastefulness.

Go on Facebook. There's a market for second-hand carpets, if you're that bothered.