The tide is turning.

Wasn't the tide turning before the Brexit vote? Before the Corbyn election? This tide doesn't seem to know which was its going.

MerylStreep

Grammaretto
Not everyone who went to Eton is from the same mould as Dave and Boris.
Do you have an opinion of Hugh Fernley Wittingstall? He went to Eton, as did Bear Grills.
A dear friend went to Eton ( although he hid it for years ?) he was a lovely generous, caring man.

Hear, hear, MerylStreep

My daughter in law's father is an old Etonian and he's a truly lovely man. Very kind and caring.

There was a question on a TV quiz about British PM’s past and present and the majority have been to Eton, Oxford, Cambridge etc. Most have come from a privileged background.
I’m not sure that it is the problem - they all have advisors, spin doctors, researchers etc. Perhaps it’s the whole system that has gone rotten?

Hearsay and old. The vote was for out. How would anyone, saying he would keep us in the EU, get to be PM. No one. Unless of course those that couldn’t be bothered to vote, instead preferring to attend Glastonbury, had got their priorities right. What did I read today, basically anyone who can’t be bothered to vote, can’t expect any voice. Especially in a referendum.

It is well documented by his previous employers that Johnson is an opportunist, and he saw Brexit as his opportunity. Unfortunatly, the electorate are paying the price for his vanity and need to shaft his erstwhile friend Cameron.

Grammaretto
Not everyone who went to Eton is from the same mould as Dave and Boris.
Do you have an opinion of Hugh Fernley Wittingstall? He went to Eton, as did Bear Grills.
A dear friend went to Eton ( although he hid it for years ?) he was a lovely generous, caring man.

Many people wanted to stop or reduce immigration and voted for Brexit on that basis. So now there's a lack of people to drive lorrys or pick produce, carers or catering staff.

Boris is just a self serving narcissist. He will always be able to afford what he wants and doesn't care about anyone else. He will never take responsibility and neither will Cameron for proposing a referendum.

Call me old fashioned, but I need evidence before I’ll believe it.

All those bad decisions are now coming back to haunt him.
But why can't anyone in English politics bring themselves to mention Brexit?
I have missed today at the Labour Conference. Maybe its been mentioned there?
Please may the next Tory leader NOT be an old Etonian. These people have no understanding of the lives of ordinary people. How can they?

Oh dear. If you think that it is pointless or a bit silly I suggest you all ignore it.

I have very broad shoulders and can deal with the brickbats ???

However I do think the suggestion that Johnson deeply regrets Brexit both now and just before he became PM on the Brexit ticket ( how dishonest can one PM be) has merit and is worth bearing in mind as we face crises after crises this winter.

Whitewavemark2. The article is from 2018 and it isn’t even a direct quote. In other words, it’s hearsay.

I am not a Boris Johnson fan, but this is pointless.

The May deal that Johnson (and others of course) rejected would have actually worked better than this mess.. I didn't like her but do think she had some integrity and as we all know, unfortunately the NI situation is unresolved.

It's no good saying Johnson has "done what he said he would" because I think that really only relates to leaving the EU.

Lots of other stuff he has not followed through on..
just saying.
I still think he'll be "in" for a while yet.

I’m with you lemongrove and Meryl. ??

Plus ...the tide isn’t turning.

Whitewavemark2
In your desperation to post yet another Boris bashing thread
you’ve made yourself look a little bit silly.
Anyone who is politically aware has read all the links on this thread a long time ago.
Nothing to see here. Move along.

Totally agree Baggs

Agree, lemongrove et al that he supported Brexit to bump his political career up a notch but there's something else to take into account: politicians are supposed to do what voters want them to do rather than to dictate what voters should want. I suspect BJ caught the whiff on the wind and followed it.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing in a politician.

Promising something that you then have to go back on is something else. Beats me why politicians ever 'promise' anything. Even manifestos are only lists of hopes rather than promises.

Tell us something we don’t already know Whitewave

Johnson decided on the Brexit route to help his career....of course he did.
However once committed he stuck to it and did the right things, and that’s what matters.
What PM would have been able to do that...T May certainly couldn’t.
Handling leaving the EU and the pandemic would be a challenge and a half for anybody.

Some more context from the 2016 Reuters article linked to by the London Economic.

www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-johnson/top-brexiteer-boris-johnson-penned-arguments-for-staying-in-eu-report-idUKKBN12F0U3?edition-redirect=uk

What Nicola Sturgeon said at the time:

Those accusations were again aired on Sunday, with Scotland’s first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, telling Sky that his calculation on backing Brexit was “based not on the merits of that argument but probably what he thought was best for his own political advancement”.

Is there newer info somewhere I wonder?

No longer though . Deeply regrets.

Pity he hasn’t the work ethic to sort it out.

Nothing new than.

It’s always been known that he was 50-50 on whether to be on the remain or leave side.

Thanks blossoming

@mattkelly results twitter account suspended

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What Twitter account is this on please?

Crossed posts Early, I can’t type very fast