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What is wrong with John Lewis?

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Apr-21 07:50:18

Carrie Symonds was reportedly appalled at the “John Lewis nightmare” after Theresa May moved out. I have seen pictures of May in the flat and I think it looks absolutely fine. Very British in taste as you would expect.

I nearly always shop in John Lewis for stuff, so do I assume my taste is a nightmare?

Apparently John Betjamin that very British poet remarked that when the end of the world came, he hoped to be in a John Lewis store as nothing unpleasant can ever happen there.

Perhaps that it the point - it is all so bland and British that it becomes a nightmare of boredom?

Blinko Thu 29-Apr-21 10:09:03

Loislovesstewie

I'd go further and buy a cheap hotel(cheap for London that is) and tell them all that if they don't live within computing distance then they can stay overnight at the hotel. I wonder how many would want to be MPs without the generous allowances.

My point exactly. See above. Perhaps it wasn't expressed as succinctly.

JaneJudge Thu 29-Apr-21 10:11:22

I actually think it's an example of how out of touch they are with ordinary people. John Lewis is seen as affluent really, I certainly can't afford to buy branded stuff there and tend to go home sense instead. I remember having a conversation with someone better off than me about rented furniture and white goods, she had absolutely no idea people had to do this and I imagine this lot in power don't either. She was horrified btw (thankfully)

The company that did the flat decor employ traditional upholsterers and I don't know why anyone would buy a traditionally upholstered sofa as a temporary measure for a short term let. Isn't that a bit bonkers? or will they take all the upholstered furniture with them?

I don't mind the look btw. I really love Vanessa Arbuthnott fabrics and curtains which looks quite similar. The prints at Soane who did the decor are a bit William Morris or Charles Voysey too, who I am quite partial to in all honesty but this is hardly the point of the thread grin

JaneJudge Thu 29-Apr-21 10:13:00

Couldn't Premier Inn build them a complex to live in? After all they are British company that actually pay their taxes

Blinko Thu 29-Apr-21 10:13:28

It does seem that Carrie Antoinette is living up to her namesake...

henetha Thu 29-Apr-21 10:13:55

I've looked around John Lewis stores and think it all looks lovely, but it's outside my bracket, pricewise, to be honest.

MaizieD Thu 29-Apr-21 10:15:46

so why the fuss,

Why isn't this sinking in? Anyone who has worked in the public sector, particularly in a position of any influence, will know that public servants are not allowed to accept gifts over a certain value. This is rigorously observed. Had it been a local council employee who had been given £58,000 to pay for refurbishing their home there would be universal condemnation and the employee would be sacked.

The purpose of this rule, which has been in existence for decades, is to ensure that public officials cannot be influenced to favour, say, a dubious planning application. It applies to all public servants, from highest to lowest They cannot be 'bought'. They are supposedly incorruptible.

Johnson's decor was initially paid for by roundabout ways, and certainly not by him. It was paid for by a 'donation' to the tory party specifically earmarked to pay for the refurb. The donor has since, surprise surprise, landed some nice lucrative government contracts. This is text book corruption! The 'gift' was not declared. This is against the rules, too.

Bozo only paid up when the story started to emerge. One might infer that he'd actually had no intention of paying for the refurb but got caught breaking the rules, so dug in his pocket (or, for all we know, into someone else's pocket).

The Electoral Commission is going to investigate him for breaking electoral law in respect of donations. They would not be doing that had they received an answer to their initial enquiry which proved beyond doubt that he had not broken electoral law.

This issue is not just one of bad taste, it is one of potential corruption.

timetogo2016 Thu 29-Apr-21 10:18:11

I haven`t either Shropshirelass.
It`s never really appealed to me tbh.

JaneJudge Thu 29-Apr-21 10:25:29

As I said yesterday, I could live in John Lewis and I hope BJ and Carrie and their baby (is he called Kevin?) can live in the middle section of B&M home stores, they'll survive as there are pot noodles in aisle 1 and kettles in aisle 3.

Alishka Thu 29-Apr-21 10:26:25

Well written and explained, MaizieD, for those who really don't see the issue here.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Apr-21 10:57:55

Anyone seen the early John Lewis Christmas ad?

It is glorious?????

I can’t do copies some else might be so kind?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Apr-21 11:04:05

Whitewavemark2

Anyone seen the early John Lewis Christmas ad?

It is glorious?????

I can’t do copies some else might be so kind?

Just google spoof John Lewis ad 2021 it’s on UTube.

Boz Thu 29-Apr-21 11:04:14

No Leader should rubbish John Lewis. British Institution and all that. I remember Margaret Thatcher praising M&S; a canny move to make her appeal to the electorate.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Apr-21 11:10:41

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Anyone seen the early John Lewis Christmas ad?

It is glorious?????

I can’t do copies some else might be so kind?

Just google spoof John Lewis ad 2021 it’s on UTube.

I know but I wanted to copy it onto here and can’t.

I think one thing that the British public always find difficult to swallow is ostentation. The flat certainly appears to meet that brief.

Loislovesstewie Thu 29-Apr-21 11:12:07

MaizieD; exactly I am a retired local government officer, and I was not allowed to take a gift from my customers. Often, satisfied customers gave me chocs or flowers and details of these gifts had to be entered in 'the bribe book' and then gifted on. Another rule for some clearly.

PinkCosmos Thu 29-Apr-21 11:15:37

EkwaNimitee

Another who agrees with MOnica. Though I’m not planning to move, my new abode has been decorated and carpeted in what some would call bland. It will be enlivened and personalised by soft furnishings and my personal possessions. I’m an army daughter so I know it can be done. It’s a scandalous waste of money and resources to spend so much on a temporary residence. And yes, I too thought she was supposed to be an environmentalist.
The next person already hoping to be the next resident must be eyeing it up with horror, the decor looks to be a rather acquired taste if the photos I’ve seen are correct.

I agree. It is a scandalous waste of money given that Prime Ministers can be in and out in four years.

No. 11 should be decorated in neutral tones (walls, floor) with the current PM able to add their own taste by way of furniture, pictures etc. They can take all of that with them when they leave.

Much like any other short term renter really

cc Thu 29-Apr-21 11:23:30

I just think that a lot of JL furniture is a bit dull and their more modern and attractive furniture is pretty small in scale, because most of us live in smaller properties.
Don't forget that the rooms in Number 10 will be very large and have high ceilings.
I had a big sofa made for the huge living room in our last house because a "normal" sized sofa would have looked out of scale.

westendgirl Thu 29-Apr-21 11:46:30

Love John Lewis's tweet :
Time for an interior's refresh ?we pride our Home Design Service for having something for " almost " everyone.
Says a lot .

MayBee70 Thu 29-Apr-21 11:49:06

Maizie: DH tells me that the government are trying to do away with the Electoral Commission. He heard it on tv yesterday. Have you heard anything about it?

JaneJudge Thu 29-Apr-21 11:53:33

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS8WR9k3UPE

paternity test linen duvet cover grin

MerylStreep Thu 29-Apr-21 11:56:31

Is this the spoof add?
youtu.be/VS8WR9k3UPE

Dinahmo Thu 29-Apr-21 12:03:28

It's brilliant (the add)

Dinahmo Thu 29-Apr-21 12:05:24

Since Johnson has now paid for the stuff, presumably they'll take it away for their new forever home.

M0nica Thu 29-Apr-21 12:10:47

John Lewis is middle market. Neither excruciatingly expensive nor dirt cheap.

Why on earth go for a recycled look. when you can do the real recycled look so much more cheaply.

I have a house full of beauiful 19th century furniture, inherited or bought. Brown furniture is highly unfashionable. Carrie could have gone to any aucrion room, including on of many in London and completelly and tastefully refurnished the whole flat for under £1,000. She is meant to be an environmentalist.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Apr-21 12:24:49

Thanks for the ad everyone.

It is so good.

JaneJudge Thu 29-Apr-21 12:49:15

The only positive thing is the company she used employ proper skilled British professionals in trades that have been in danger in previous years.