A big thank you to those who voted for Brexit

Found it!

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-committee-jacob-rees-mogg-eu-trade-deal-b1784512.html

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Does Rees Mogg, as Leader of the House, actually have the power to abolish a Parliamentary Select Committee?

These committees, comprising experienced parliamentarians of all parties, are there to scrutinise legislation and government action, interrogate ministers, senior civil servants and others and hold them to account.

If Rees Mogg can get away with abolishing the Brexit Committee, can he also unilaterally abolish all the others?

I need find the tweet and get a link. I’ll get back to you

Does Rees Mogg, as Leader of the House, actually have the power to abolish a Parliamentary Select Committee?

These committees, comprising experienced parliamentarians of all parties, are there to scrutinise legislation and government action, interrogate ministers, senior civil servants and others and hold them to account.

If Rees Mogg can get away with abolishing the Brexit Committee, can he also unilaterally abolish all the others?

Joelsnan Decimalisation was nowhere near such a problem as that facing the UK now. It did not hinder the import/export of goods and services although it did allow traders to round up when converting their prices. Same as happened when European countries converted their currencies to the euro. Short term gains made by some unscrupulous people.

I certainly don't remember our joining the Common Market as being that difficult. Quite the reverse. It opened up opportunities to the many rather than the few.

This is a totally different situation. The livelihoods of thousands of people are being affected.

The comparison with moving to a new house is facile.

So remind me how did we cope before ?

Oh yes I bet it is. He is good isn’t he?

Is it the one that was chaired by Hilary Benn I wonder.

MayBee70

Whitewavemark2

The Parliamentary Brexit committee had plans for a 6 month in depth look at the Christmas Brexit agreement.

Rees-Mogg has shut the committee down, effectively preventing democratic scrutiny of the Brexit deal.

This populist government is suppressing democratic processes.

Was that a cross party committee?

I assume so.

JackyB I've been able to buy proper smoked haddock - not the dyed stuff - In Grand Frais. They also have a selection of non French cheeses, including truckles of cheddar and stilton.

The things that I buy from England are not, I imagine, available in an "English Shop"; for example Adaptil for my dog which costs twice the price here and a range of vitamin supplements. The only food item I buy is loose green tea which is a bit milder than the gunpowder green and China tea sold here.

After a while away, it’s interesting to see the ‘usual suspects still trying to justify their anger at losing a democratic vote buy searching msm for issues for validation.
No one expected sunny uplands on 1st January. To those who can remember...Was the transition into the Common market without issue for days/months even years? Was decimalisation smooth and without disruption or cost?
When you move to a new home do things magically fall into place and you know immediately where things are and how to use all them?
I do think that always looking for problems rather than opportunities must be quite depressing and especially with the current pandemic, should try to avoid.

Whitewavemark2

The Parliamentary Brexit committee had plans for a 6 month in depth look at the Christmas Brexit agreement.

Rees-Mogg has shut the committee down, effectively preventing democratic scrutiny of the Brexit deal.

This populist government is suppressing democratic processes.

Was that a cross party committee?

JackyB

Sorry to butt in there as I now see the thread has moved on to more serious issues

It doesn’t matter? everything is interesting.

So we are 9 days in and already businesses are demanding that the government looks at negotiating a brexitlite which includes the SM and CU..

Blimey I thought it would happen after a year but not 9;days.

I feel so sorry for them having to make it work and something that they almost certainly don’t want and didn’t vote for.

Sorry to butt in there as I now see the thread has moved on to more serious issues

Like Dinamho I live outside the UK, but after 40 years and more here, I have learned to manage without the things I knew in the UK or I have found acceptable substitutes here.

I have just checked "The English Shop" website (I use the one in Bonn but Mail order, if necessary, from the main store in Cologne). They seem to have plenty of stock but I'm not sure if that will deplete once the goods bought before Christmas get sold out.

The only thing I really miss from the UK are smoked haddock and Wensleydale cheese, but the import of these was prohibited before Brexit anyway.

The Parliamentary Brexit committee had plans for a 6 month in depth look at the Christmas Brexit agreement.

Rees-Mogg has shut the committee down, effectively preventing democratic scrutiny of the Brexit deal.

This populist government is suppressing democratic processes.

vegansrock

We have won our sovereignty. All the leavers are really enjoying it.

My highlights after a week of “freedom”
- loads more red tape and paperwork
- many firms have stopped delivering
- Have to pay big new VAT bills
- Fishermen and farmers complaining they'll go bust
- Racial abuse in sleepy Penzance
- Lorry drivers fined or turned away for not having Kent Access Pass. Some stuck in Calais for 24 hours
-Food not available in some parts of the country
- Some vaccines not available until April
- British travellers denied access to EU countries
So far, so Brexit. Can't wait to see what else we have won.

I agree that my "problem" is not particularly important as I am one purchaser but there are millions like me - not just Brits living in the EU but all the other EU residents who buy stuff from the UK. As we have already seen many small businesses selling fresh food are already suffering and there will be more over the next few weeks.

On a slightly different tack, a friend teaches English to workers in a large scale operation that makes a lot of patisserie for M & S. I'm wondering what will happen now. She did tell me that the company had got its paperwork sorted out but that was a few months ago. Maybe things have changed. Possible redundancies here in France perhaps?

I didn’t read the comment as pro leave, but it was certainly very condescending to someone who obviously wished remain had won.

It wasn't that it sounded pro-leave; it was that it sounded, if taken the wrong way, which I did initially, as if biba was saying that Dinahmo's problem wasn't terribly important. Which felt like the sort of thing a Leaver would say. I realise now that this was not her intention. I know that biba is as fervent a 'Remainer' as I am. And that Brexit has caused her lots of problems, including a significant loss of income. This is no secret, she's mentioned it several times on here. In fact, the first time she mentioned it, not long after the referendum, a Leaver actually told her 'hard luck, we won, get over it..'. That was a real shock... but just a taste of what was to come...

Urmstongran

No I didn’t think that at all WW.

Plus the Remain campaign did not say that would be the outcome if we didn’t vote ‘their’ way.
I do recall a poster who regularly told us about isotope shortages but has never mentioned it since so I presume that hasn’t happened either?

I genuinely do not believe our government would jeopardise our health. Negotiations on medicines will have taken place over many months. Nothing in the news about adverse outcomes?

The govt has already jeopardised peoples' health - with the various cockups over covid and you know what they are so I won't list them now.

biba70

to be honest Dinahmo, the problem you have highlighted is just a bit of a pain- and really very minor compared to the real severe issues Brexit is throwing up. Honestly!

In the scheme of things this problem is quite minor but it is something that most people wouldn't have expected. We have discussed on here the major problems that could be expected over several months, if not years. This is just another nail in the coffin.

biba70

Maizie, I have re-read my post several times- and I just cannot possibly imagine how you could come up with that conclusion. Truly.

Brexit is causing and will cause massive amounts of serious damage to individuals and businesses, and the UK as a whole.

No being able to order 'stuff' like clothes, etc, from abroad, or with increased taxes, sounds like a very minor inconvenience compared to the above. Perhaps what some call 'a First World Problem'.

You know that I am, always was and always will be, remain and pro EU. Very hurtful.

I didn’t read the comment as pro leave, but it was certainly very condescending to someone who obviously wished remain had won.

I don't think you read the article, UG Losing thousands of pounds worth of business is not a 'bump'. Increased costs are permanent, not a 'bump'. Losing competitiveness is not a 'bump'. Jeez. I've never run a business but I'm not so stupid that I can't understand the implications.

Anyway. Following your assertion that businesses knew in October what to expect, funnily enough, government guidance is still being issued; 8 days in

Edwin Hayward Unicorn face ?
@uk_domain_names

The hardcore Brexit red tape fetishists are going to go nuts over this spanking new document...

"Transporting goods between Great Britain and the EU: guidance for hauliers and commercial drivers"

A mere 11,583 words of sensual pleasure, published today.

So much more stimulating and thrilling than the 8 word pre-Brexit state of affairs...
1. Get truck
2. Load truck
3. Prepare CMR note
4. Drive

www.gov.uk/guidance/transporting-goods-between-great-britain-and-the-eu-guidance-for-hauliers-and-commercial-drivers

Everyone will catch up soon enough. Then DPD will restart deliveries.

It's going to cost everyone MORE. Do you not understand that? Why should that be a Good Thing?

These are bumps MD.
As I said earlier, it’s only DAY 8 and those affected will up their game, source the information and paperwork, contact the experts for guidance. Money is at stake. It talks. People will listen and adjust accordingly.

For example, the delivery group DPD have stopped going over to Europe just now as 20% of the parcels they were carrying were non compliant with the EU regulations. Turn that around. 80% of parcels were compliant and had the correct paperwork.

Everyone will catch up soon enough. Then DPD will restart deliveries.
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This is not a 'bump'

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LONDON (Reuters) - Many Scottish fishermen have halted exports to European Union markets after post-Brexit bureaucracy shattered the system that used to put fresh langoustines and scallops in French shops just over a day after they were harvested.
Fishing exporters told Reuters their businesses could become unviable after the introduction of health certificates, customs declarations and other paperwork added days to their delivery times and hundreds of pounds to the cost of each load.

Business owners said they had tried to send small deliveries to France and Spain to test the new systems this week but it was taking five hours to secure a health certificate in Scotland, a document which is required to apply for other customs paperwork.

In the first working week after Brexit, one-day deliveries were taking three or more days - if they got through at all.

Owners could not say for sure where their valuable cargo was. A trade group told boats to stop fishing exported stocks.

“Our customers are pulling out,” Santiago Buesa of SB Fish told Reuters. “We are fresh product and the customers expect to have it fresh, so they’re not buying. It’s a catastrophe.”

On Thursday evening, the Scottish fishing industry’s biggest logistics provider DFDS Scotland told customers it had taken the “extraordinary step” of halting until Monday export groupage, when multiple product lines are carried, to try to fix IT issues, paperwork errors and the backlog.

Scotland harvests vast quantities of langoustines, scallops, oysters, lobsters and mussels from sea fisheries along its bracing Atlantic coast which are rushed by truck to grace the tables of European diners in Paris, Brussels and Madrid.

But Britain’s departure from the EU’s orbit introduced reams of paperwork and costs that must be completed to move goods across the new customs border, the biggest change to its trade since the launch of the Single Market in 1993.

Those trading in food and livestock face the toughest requirements, hitting the express delivery of freshly caught fish that used to move overnight from Scotland, via England, into France, before going on to other European markets in days.

David Noble, whose Aegirfish buys from Scottish fleets to export to Europe, said he would have to pay between 500 to 600 pounds ($815) per day for paperwork, wiping out most profit.

His concern is that this marks more than just teething problems, and says he cannot pass on the higher costs of doing business. “I’m questioning whether to carry on,” he said.

“If our fish is too expensive our customers will buy elsewhere.”

.......

Fishermen across Britain have accused Prime Minister Boris Johnson of betrayal after he previously vowed to take back control of British waters. With little new control and little access to customer markets, many are in despair.

Fishing trade bodies said mistakes in filling out paperwork meant entire consignments were being checked. A French fishmongers’ union said numerous seafood trucks had been held up at the customs point in Boulogne for several hours, and even up to a day, due to faulty paperwork.

While that should improve with time, and IT issues should be resolved, Seafood Scotland warned they could see the “destruction of a centuries-old market” if it does not.

Fergus Ewing, Scottish secretary for the rural economy, said it was better for problems to be identified and resolved in Scotland than hundreds of miles away.

SB Fish’s Buesa, angered at suggestions that traders were not prepared, said all his paperwork was correct and demanded to know why business leaders were not making more of a fuss.

He owns the business with his father, has been exporting for 28 years and employs around 50 people. “I’m in the trenches here,” he said. “It’s gridlock.”

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www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-scotland-fishing-exclusive/exclusive-its-a-catastrophe-scottish-fishermen-halt-exports-due-to-brexit-red-tape-idUKKBN29D0UB?edition-redirect=uk

I've c & p'd most of the article to increase its chances of actually being read.