A big thank you to those who voted for Brexit

This explains how dogs can be imported and how the RSPCA was trying to stop it.

www.rspca.org.uk/-/news-petition-to-ban-importing-dogs-with-cropped-ears

MayBee70

I have never seen a dog with cropped ears in this country. Not sure if any other gransnet dog lovers have ever seen one. The main country that does that is America, the country that we are supposedly planning to ally ourselves to.

I've seen loads of dogs with cropped ears, I'm sad to say

It is a sight that we don't see very often these days but I knew a Doberman breeder whose dogs had their ears done at about 12 weeks old. People will still purchase these dogs from overseas as it's still seen as the done thing o-0

I owned a rescue Jack Russell who had had her tail docked. By some do it yourself idiot by the looks of it.

Awful practice

That aside, we're doing exceptionally well with the vaccine.

I agree that it is abhorrent Urmstongran. And didn’t realise that it was fashionable to own dogs with cropped ears. I always know if a film is made in America when I see dogs such as Doberman’s with cropped ears. They also de claw cats in America. Are you sure that being in the EU prevented us from banning the import of dogs with cropped ears though?

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www.politico.eu/article/coronavirus-vaccination-europe-by-the-numbers/

My mistake MayBee. Other dogs then. Can’t recall the breeds.

Dinahmo, I thank you for your 'thank you' - and I'm sure that you really appreciate the amazing efforts to quickly vaccinate the UK population, unhindered by EU red tape.

I'm so glad that I don't have to wait for their shambolic scheme to be sorted out!

But it’s illegal to own a Pit Bull in the U.K. anyway.

It’s an illegal practice in Europe. It is of no benefit to the poor dog. But certain individuals prize a ‘tougher’ looking dog.

These pit pulls, boxers, mastiffs etc. have their ear flaps docked in say Russia and come through Europe.

Seems we can choose now not to let them in, as Defra says.

I have never seen a dog with cropped ears in this country. Not sure if any other gransnet dog lovers have ever seen one. The main country that does that is America, the country that we are supposedly planning to ally ourselves to.

But there is also GOOD NEWS!

A Defra spokesperson said: “The practice of mutilating dogs’ ears is abhorrent and has rightly been banned in the UK for 15 years.

“We already have some of the world’s highest animal welfare standards. Now we have left the EU we have the opportunity to manage our own rules applying to pet travel movements into Great Britain, including considering the ban of imports of dogs with cropped ears.”

The brexit nonsense has certainly damaged the Scottish shellfish industry. So much for having Farage as our representative on the EU Fishing Committee. He cared so little about the Scottish fishing industry or the other UK fishing communities that he only turned up to one meeting out of 42. It is just ridiculous that that charlatan could ever have persuaded a single fisherman to vote leave.

www.euronews.com/2021/01/11/post-brexit-trade-fish-prices-collapsing-in-uk-as-red-tape-hits-exports-and-supply-chain

Philippa111

I'm in Scotland and friends who would never in a million years have considered voting SNP are all changing their minds.
The words 'Down the tubes' come to mind.

The Scots should calm down and make the best of it like the rest of us, independence can only come with border restrictions. EU membership is an illusion that can only come with a “closed” border with England, EFTA membership is much more likely and subject to EU rules.

Just like Brexit it’s a double edged sword, even more complex now.

Not me varian I’m more than happy to visit my second home as I live here.

Dinahmo
I’m not sure what it does tell me.
Is it that those who voted remain are still very cross whilst those who voted leave are just getting on with life?
No one on either side can do much about it, leavers aren’t necessarily happy with the way it has all been handled but it’s done.
Covid hasn’t helped with the whole thing and we all have our views on how that has been handled too.
I certainly don’t have the answers but, as an optimist, have to hope and believe we will be fine.

Sparkling

It wasMaisie who said she was entitled to be bitter. These posts get social media a bad name, these are obviously very heavily weighted posts from the remain group. I am not prepared to put my views to those with closed minds. So it’s all yours as it’s completely biased.

Don't you find it interesting that there's rather more people on this thread who are critical than those who support Brexit. What does that tell you?

As for the others who are so optimistic I don't think one of you has mentioned where all the new start ups will be and what sort of businesses. And no, you can't say the green economy because I did that a few pages back.

seamstress

Cant stand the "lets all move on" type comments- why should we? That would mean owning or supporting something which has removed freedoms, put up barriers and made many poorer. No thanks. If you don't want to read the criticisms of the turd that is Brexit then don't . The country is still divided whatever the pollyannas wish to think.

Do we have any choice? It's a complete mess done for selfish reasons, but we are out. Moving on does not have to be bad. I doubt we will be allowed back in but I also think the EU will adapt, change and move on itself over the coming years. What we can look forward to is better agreements with an even better, more adaptable, EU.

However, what Johnson and his troops want is far from good for any of us and we have to deal with him until the next election (although we can hope it's sooner than that). He has shown he is prepared to act illegally towards parliament and take away the rights of our elected MPs without blanching at the laws, rules and accepted traditions he breaks. In that he is certainly like Trump.

There is a lot to do and it probably cannot be done quickly but step by step we can get our country into a position that is better for everyone not just those who think they are owed special privileges and expect personal 'sovereignty' while taking it away from others.

I'm in Scotland and friends who would never in a million years have considered voting SNP are all changing their minds.
The words 'Down the tubes' come to mind.

Cant stand the "lets all move on" type comments- why should we? That would mean owning or supporting something which has removed freedoms, put up barriers and made many poorer. No thanks. If you don't want to read the criticisms of the turd that is Brexit then don't . The country is still divided whatever the pollyannas wish to think.

Galaxy

Am I in a remain group without being aware of it, I hate it when that happens.

Am I in a remain group without being aware of it, I hate it when that happens.

Sparkling

It wasMaisie who said she was entitled to be bitter. These posts get social media a bad name, these are obviously very heavily weighted posts from the remain group. I am not prepared to put my views to those with closed minds. So it’s all yours as it’s completely biased.

I am not in any "remain" group personally. It would be a little pointless now. Just as pointless as being in a "leave" group would be as that bit is over, it has gone, we have left. Things have changed and most people have moved on.

Maisie is entitled to be bitter about anything she feels bitter about - so are you and everyone else. That doesn't mean people don't have great faith in the British people in getting us out of the mire. I certainly do, but it will be some time before I forgive those who did this and and did it so badly. Hopefully we never see democracy meaning we can be told how to think, which is what seems to be the suggestion, at times, by ex leave voters.

Before you know it we will be talking about how we can move forward, who should benefit and whether we should get closer to the EU again, or not. All that will be democratic discussion. If you are not prepared to join in you may, in this democratically country, leave that discussion to others.

I disagree with the idea that people who voted remain in the referendum must now shut up and 'get over it'. We know the vote has now been implemented, Brexit is in the past. However, that doesn't mean that I, and others with me, must agree that the vote to leave was the right one. We have been promised that we will 'prosper mightily' outside the EU. Good, but please don't keep saying it, show us! And can we take it that this prosperity will reach us all, that we will all feel that we have gained something. Not just the ones who are already prospering.

To the original poster - you're most welcome. I'm saving my thanks (not thanks) to those who voted the Conservative party in, who have made a complete pig's ear of both Brexit and the coronavirus crisis.

Sparkling

It wasMaisie who said she was entitled to be bitter. These posts get social media a bad name, these are obviously very heavily weighted posts from the remain group. I am not prepared to put my views to those with closed minds. So it’s all yours as it’s completely biased.

At least though it’s only a few posters. A mere handful who post again and again, out of the hundreds and hundreds of GNers. They need a place to gather and vent, although it would be far healthier for them to accept things and move on.
Forums aren’t real life, thank goodness.

It wasMaisie who said she was entitled to be bitter. These posts get social media a bad name, these are obviously very heavily weighted posts from the remain group. I am not prepared to put my views to those with closed minds. So it’s all yours as it’s completely biased.