I haven't read the complete thread, sorry, but the thing that annoys me more than Cummings and his behaviour, his lies, his wife's lies, is the weak, pathetic defence by cabinet ministers. The way they have justified it as if we, the public, don't understand, we are at fault for not being able to interpret the rules, or even that we are bad parents because we would stick to the rules to the detriment of our children's health. It was most unedifying to watch the accomplished liar Grant Schapps on Marr this morning, he wriggled and blustered, got his dates wrong, it was pathetic. So, we have Schapps telling lies, Johnson we know is a liar, Mrs Cummings is too. The whole thing is rotten to the core. This is beyond politics, it is a moral issue and I seriously judge anyone who thinks this type of behaviour is acceptable. I have no doubt that there will be accusations of 'leftie' by the usual predictable posters, but this is not politics, it is my moral code, I don't like liars.