New Labour LEADER

I can only think of George Galloway who launched a new left
wing party but he didn’t leave the Labour Party, he was expelled .

Who are the others grandad43 ?

The Gang of Four and the Alliance party come to mind anniebach. The independence party I also believe was formed out of Labour but I stand to be corrected on that one.

I feel their are more should anyone care to do some research.

None of them ever considered a threat to the Labour Party though

Anniebach.

Have you forgotten ' the gang of 4' SDP.

Grandad. Snap

I just hope he’s getting rid of Diane Abbot

Great minds think alike POGS. ?

The 4 mp’s who became The Gang of Four were of the left ?
No way.

The Alliance Party are in N.Ireland

The Independence Party was right wing

None a threat to the LP

POGS I have just replied, The Gang of Four were not as claimed by grandad43 from the left of the Labour Party,
they formed with the Libs and we now have the Lib Dem’s

Whitewavemark2 Quote [ None of them ever considered a threat to the Labour Party though] End Quote.

Whitewavemark2, I agree they never threatened the existence of the Labour Party, they did, however, draw a great deal of attention when those that formed them broke away from the Labour Party amongst a great deal of publicity.

However, they never could find the financial backing that would have given them any longterm future.

I'd love to see political parties being state funded. I think the present system tends towards being corrupt and makes a mockery of democracy. Money buys power...

Yes I agree maizie

MaizieD public funding of political parties has been discussed many times during my long life. However, I believe that no bill has ever got to even having a first reading in Parliament.

It will never come about for the reasons already laid out in this thread.

Lesley she stood down ages ago. But do feel free to make uninformed comments.

POGS I believe you are correct in stating that they formed into an alliance with the Liberal Party that had about four seats in parliament at that time if my memory serves me correct.

I believe it was the fact that they were such prominent front bench members of the Labour Party that made the whole event so noteworthy at the time.

Is that correct as you remember it?

Anniebach there was I believe an Change Uk Alience party that formed out of disgruntled labour MPs in the last Parliament.

I then think they changed their name to justchange UK. However they all lost their seats at the last general election.

grandad43. Shirley Williams, David Owens, Bill Rogers and
Roy Jenkins were not from the left of the party

Whatever the past history and arguments the Labour Party and Movement are still very much in existence and the only real alternative to the Conservative Party at this point in time.

If change does come about it will, I feel, come from the broader Labour movement outside of the present parliamentary Labour Party?

Again you are wrong granddad43 the MP’s who left the Labour Party and became part of Change UK left the party
because of anti semitism and again they were not as you claim
‘From the left’

1Anniebach please point out where in this thread I have stated that any breakaway group were from the left of the Labour Party?

Many "breakaway" left-wing parties have been launched by disgruntled Labour MPs over the years but all have fallen over finance backing.

grandad43 your post.

Change U.K. and The Social Democrat Party were not
left wing parties

Anniebach read again what you have just Quoted me on. It refers to breakaway left wing parties in regard to the spectrum of British politics. The forgoing is totally different to MPs from the left of the Labour Party forming such a body.

I do not believe that any breakaway organisation has formed out of the hard left of the Labour Party. Such bodies have always formed out of the centre or centre-left of the Labour Party.

No grandad43. Not one formed a left wing party and this is
what you claim. You made no mention of ‘hard left’ , you
said ‘left wing parties have been formed ‘,

Left wing in the spectrum of Briish politics anniebach.

I certainly did not mention in any post prior to the recent one's where any Labour MP was positioned in regard to their political stance in relation to left or right in the party when those breakaway bodies were formed.

Got it.