Leaving Archie behind

Ellan, have you have travelled with a small child?

They absolutely get jet lag. Even with sensible parents.

Depending on where they flew from, it’s either a 6-9 hour time difference!

If they’d brought him, they’d have been called out for not caring about his health.

There is no winning for this couple.

If people are so eager for them to get on with private lives, why not make it easier and stop gossiping about discussing them?

Vegansrock---they wouldn't have noticed any time difference travelling first class with its sleeping arrangements, babies usually sleep if the parents are sensible enough about time differences.

Would he have seen any of his extended family? Don't they all have timetables and schedules that are booked months or even years in advance? Why do GNers persist in pretending the RF operates just like they do? It's not just pathetic it's delusional. And what mother would bring her child to a country where his great grandmother could, if she wanted, legally claim him?

Maybe they have a tighter security/travel budget since intention to leave royal role?

Haven’t read all the thread, but maybe it was decided to leave Archie at home because of the corona virus, and also because his parents won’t be away for very long. I suspect he spends quite a bit of time with nanny or whoever anyway.
As for the Queen and D of E, well, although much is made of ‘family’, I imagine at their age they are not too bothered about seeing him in the flesh. GGC are yet another step away, and I wouldn’t think they are upset really. Although like the rest of GN, I have no idea what they think of course!

Archies great grandparents won`t be here for much longer and would have loved to see him as I`m sure his cousins would.
Seems a bit out of character for Harry tbh.
I hope he doesn`t live to regret it.

ellanvannin Canada may not be as far as Australia , but it certainly counts as long haul in aviation terms. Why disrupt the child, who is at peak age for anxiety about changes in routine for a short visit?With the tim difference it would mean settling them to a new sleep/ wake routine. By the time they’d done that it would be time to return.

It's not " long-haul " Vegansrock. The furthest part of Canada is only a third of the distance to Sydney, 9hrs or thereabout.

There's no reason why that child couldn't have travelled with them with nanny in tow. I thought it was so mean considering the ages of the Queen and Duke. It puts an entirely different light on their attitudes now-----selfish and thoughtless ! Typical of many ordinary families.

I think you are right eazybee It's sad for the Queen and Prince Philip to be treated this way but seems to happen in many families.

I don't pretend to know about the feelings of the Queen and other members of the royal family towards seeing the baby.
Nothing to stop this couple extending their paid -for visit into a private one so that the child would have time to settle. He was taken to to Ibiza, Africa, Elton John's hideaway and Canada.

I do recognise a classic technique of estrangement, when the dominant parent controls access to the child, and the weaker parent stands by and lets it happen.

Considering they have flown with him before it could be they are concerned about him catching coronavirus or perhaps he’s been ill recently and they don’t want him to travel after an ear infection or the like, we aren’t privy to why they decided to leave him behind so it maybe a practical sensible reason.

The queen left her old children for long periods of time. I’m sure she’s not that fussed about a great grandchild. Perhaps they Skype ?

My children rarely saw their great grandmother because it was difficult to visit. We stayed in touch in other ways.

Few 10 month old babies enjoy travelling long distances and anyone who has taken a baby to a different time zone knows it can take days to adjust sleep patterns. So for a few days it would be very disruptive for such a young child. He would not appreciate “seeing” anyone . The child’s needs should come above that of elderly relatives who may or may not be interested.

Dollymac says more about you than anyone else.

Les tricoteuses

I wasn't going to comment on this thread but since when does sympathy have to be rationed? It's possible to have sympathy, and indeed empathy, with many different situations, some obviously more desperate than others. My dad, a widower at the time, would have loved to meet his great granddaughter born in Canada (his 3rd great grandchild) but his health wasn't up to the travel and there wasn't the money for the Canadian family to come here. And anyway he died just over two months later. He'd not have managed to get down on the floor either, would that make him unworthy, despite being only 81?
It's illuminating how many feel able to make negative assumptions about the Royal Family, yet deny others the same ability to make more positive assumptions. Of course the plight of refugees is awful, but sympathy for one does not exclude sympathy for the other. Just because you personally couldn't care less about seeing a grandchild or great grandchild doesn't mean everybody shares the same indifference. No child ever suffered from too many people loving it.

I'm not really interested in the dynamics of the RF .But if I had a baby of that age (or any age) I would want him with me all the time.
Why have they left him behind?
Maybe fear of coronavirus .

I am not, my two daughters loved their dead fathers sister and
parents telling them about their daddy.

I had a very large extended family , no fantasy, much love

Do you think it's at all possible that some people are playing out their fantasies throught this family, who infact are complete strangers? just a thought.

He isn’t seeing two grandfathers, a great grandmother, a great
grandfather, an uncle and aunt, 3 cousins, 3 great uncles, 5 great aunts. An extended family is wonderful

Let's have a wee think now, he is healthy and well and has loving parents. I assume he has a nanny and a Grandparent close by. I assume all is well an he isn't traumatised from not seeing cousin Charlotte or Great Grandad.

greymar Archie will be ok

This an assumption I presume, not a fact.

Archie will be OK.

Get a grip Greymar, poor little boy was a turn of phrase. And yes I have seen the pictures of refugees and I well aware of the problems they are facing. I teach english once a week to refugees and I contribute to a charity.