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Diane Abbott quits the shadow cabinet.

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Urmstongran Sun 23-Feb-20 23:10:50

She’s stepping down, no matter who is selected as the next leader of the Labour Party.

I think it’s a vote catcher quite honestly.

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:25:48

I just don’t care Sparkle you can think what you want of me - it’s completely irrelevant in my world. And you’ve given a perfect example of what you and others whinge about. Well done.

Pumpkinpie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:23:54

I like Diane Abbott , she’s a woman of principle a rare thing for an MP .
I think the racist and very offensive targeted attacks on her by the press , media etc have been horrific but still she has continued to work hard for her constituents and her beliefs. I respect that strength.
I actually find the condescending tone of the posters opening comment offensive

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:23:21

jan I see now what you meant - my post about wondering didn’t refer to the photoshopping of the drink - i posted mine before anamin posted hers. Mine was a general statement wondering about why people needed this nasty outlet

Sparklefizz Mon 24-Feb-20 12:23:13

suziewoozie ^ In response I’ll say that I haven’t noticed your absence on any threads I’m on and I doubt any absence has been a loss.^

Thank you so much for proving my point! What a sweet person you are.

Yehbutnobut Mon 24-Feb-20 12:23:05

I think the moral high ground must go to those who try to defend the abused who cannot answer back for themselves, rather than those who always see the worst in people.

People, who incidentally, they only ‘know’ through the filter of the media.

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:19:16

Sparkle I just don’t see why people want a pile on with DA now. By rude you mean I don’t suffer fools gladly - and your post is so well mannered isn’t it! In response I’ll say that I haven’t noticed your absence on any threads I’m on and I doubt any absence has been a loss.

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:15:40

Yes a lot of the abuse she received referred to her weight, her colour and her sex and then went to say things that are truly truly awful.

Sparklefizz Mon 24-Feb-20 12:15:38

suziewoozie Your comment It wouldn’t hurt to just back off ....

I can never understand how you can want to stop people having a discussion on here and insinuate that they are being cruel when they criticise someone .... yet be very rude yourself to other GNrs. I keep trying to stay off threads where you post but you are hard to avoid.

Yehbutnobut Mon 24-Feb-20 12:13:54

Don’t forget overweight too....in a society that judges people by their looks ?

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:08:48

Yeh she’s black, a woman and left wing.

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:07:52

I never said she didn’t drink on the train and neither did anyone else - maybe I missed that.

Yehbutnobut Mon 24-Feb-20 12:05:11

What has she ever done to earn such comments eg ‘ No loss. I cannot stand her. Nasty woman ...’ ?

She is a very popular and hard working constituency MP.

TerriBull Mon 24-Feb-20 12:04:20

On the subject of private schools and not Diane Abbott's choice per se. I am unable to understand why, if you subscribe to the ethos of socialism, you think it's acceptable to opt for a private education for your offspring. A level playing field surely? anything else smacks of rank hypocrisy, particularly when you are in the habit of criticising colleagues choices, Harriet Harman, for sending her children to select state schools I believe. Select they may be, but they are still state.

There's an interview with David Lammy in The Sunday Times, he was one of 5 raised by a single mother, tougher I imagine than having a mother who is a Cambridge graduate and an MP where you can hardly claim to be anything other than upwardly mobile and as such, can insulate your children from the worst excesses of "the mean streets". David Lammy didn't have such a start, nevertheless he was the first black Briton to graduate Harvard Law School. Possibly he was helped along the way by winning a choral scholarship to a STATE boarding school.

janipat Mon 24-Feb-20 12:04:00

Diane Abbott has been subjected to some vile abuse, and that is totally unacceptable, but criticising her for her statements and actions that people disagree with is totally acceptable. Nobody is beyond criticism.

janipat Mon 24-Feb-20 12:01:06

suziewoozie You can’t help but wonder can you?

I wonder why she would apologise for something she hadn't done??

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47996907

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 12:00:57

FFS

Luckygirl Mon 24-Feb-20 12:00:43

I would not condemn anyone for making decisions about their children's education in the best interests of those children; and in the situation and circumstances in which they find themselves.

Labour have a policy of trying to improve education so that no-one is faced with unsatisfactory local state schools - maybe some future government, of whatever colour, will succeed in this aim - I am not holding my breath. Until then parents must do what they see as right for their children.

It is totally iniquitous that some state schools are unsatisfactory.

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 12:00:15

Maybe all her disasterous TV, and radio appearances were phot shopped, too?

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 11:57:03

You can’t help but wonder can you?

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 11:56:01

Was the tinny photoshopped?

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 11:55:15

...ever the optimist...

trisher Mon 24-Feb-20 11:53:15

For all those posting negative comment about her (completely uninfluenced by the MSM who even resorted to photoshopping odd shoes on her, of course) can I point out that she is an extremely successful and popular MP, with a huge majority. So she must be doing something right.

ananimous Mon 24-Feb-20 11:51:24

Diane Abbott says her decision is based on the fact that Labour's election chances should shoot up by eleventy-four per cent now...

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 11:48:56

Sorry meant T2 of course - if T1 goes undiagnosed you die

suziewoozie Mon 24-Feb-20 11:48:08

Many people with T1 go undiagnosed for years and by the time of diagnosis not only may it be too late to be reversible but other irreversible damage has usually been done. It’s very sad.