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And What Do You Do? Book about the Royal Family by Norman Baker

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Missfoodlove Fri 27-Dec-19 09:53:06

I think our Queen is an incredible woman who has taken her vows seriously and puts the country first.

William and Kate are great role models and instil great confidence for the future of the monarchy.

I am proud to be British and mightily proud of our Queen. I love to be in London watching the tourists marvel at the palaces.

I went to see the Queen Mother laying in state, it was incredible.
I was also fortunate enough to be in Horseguards for Diana’s funeral.

As a family we stood for the National Anthem before the Queens speech.

Right ready for the onslaught.......,,

Grany Fri 27-Dec-19 05:39:49

I guess people believe that they contribute few pence a year and that Royalty bring in money because of tourism is proven untrue This would open a few people's eyes to the total cost and what is kept hidden. A good enough reason to read the book.

A Royal protection officer speaks about PA in an interview and has written a book.

Mamie Thu 26-Dec-19 17:39:30

I thought it was dreadful. Badly written, historically selective, polemical. I am no royalist, but found it practically unreadable.

Urmstongran Thu 26-Dec-19 16:57:01

Thanks Grany for this thread. I didn’t know Norman Baker is a 62y old former MP from Aberdeenshire. The book was published this year and is getting rave reviews!

I shall buy it on my Kindle.

Only worry is, I might have to up my blood pressure tablets when reading it!

Urmstongran Thu 26-Dec-19 16:42:30

I think Charles will cull the numbers in the Firm. He realises the pitfalls ahead and will streamline. Jumps before being pushed I think.

pinkquartz Thu 26-Dec-19 16:26:42

I have been reading this book
It has passed my expectations of just ridiculous it is that we continue to pay for this family to live such privilege lives.

A really good read for anyone not sure how they feel about the RF

They cost us far more than is usually made public. Just security is an ongoing huge expense.

Time to cull.

annep1 Thu 26-Dec-19 16:20:35

Brace yourself Grany. I will be watching without comment. Less stressful.

phoenix Thu 26-Dec-19 12:48:45

Erm, I thought he did go to Pizza Express? tchconfused

Grany Thu 26-Dec-19 12:46:30

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Grany Thu 26-Dec-19 12:29:36

This is a cogent, timely and very important study of an ancient institution, the monarchy, which has evolved highly modern methods of spin and obfuscation - especially about its money. Respect for a dedicated long-serving Queen has stifled analysis of the remarkable "shell game" which generations of her family and courtiers have shuffled assets and income between public and private (not unlike MPs and peers "flipping" their residences to help their allowances) and hidden the true costs of the Royal Family to its taxpaying subjects. Looking deeper behind Norman Baker's vivid stories and telling analysis one picks up a sense of the extraordinary lives they lead, and the weird assumptions on which these are based. At least one member might now be happier if he had lived a normal life of paying for his own holidays and going to parties at Pizza Express.

Grany Thu 26-Dec-19 12:25:27

Shedding new light
A few of the comments

Unputdownable.
Every pro-royalist argument is neatly demolished. It shows us what the monarchy really is about: free-loaders; parasites; freebie holidays lovers; hypocrites of the highest order, including the Queen, who by the way has shares in Brighthouse; a firm that exploits the poor in society; the myth that they bring in 'loads of money' proves to be just that, a myth peddled by the Firm.
In fact the annual third of a billion pounds allocated to them (not including security costs which are kept secret-why is that?!) should be rerouted to the ailing NHS, not to the Queen, who is fabuously wealthy. Even their wills remain secret (again-why?)
As head of state she is useless. The institution is undemocratic and riddled with corruption. How can one respect such a family?

They have no place in 21th century Britain

This is a carefully researched exposure of the greed, the cynicism and the general uselessness of Britain’s royalty. It’s quite jaw dropping to read how the British state panders to them, using every mechanism in their armoury to protect and indeed expand the grotesque privilege they enjoy. Norman Baker also exposes the humbug of royals like Prince Charles and his sons who never miss a chance to leap into a chartered jet to swan around the world. His account of the current life of Prince Andrew is partially entertaining; partially enraging. Well worth the 5 stars

Just started this. Should be mandatory for everyone to read it. I know generally what is being said, but the actual facts are amazing ... and we still haven’t moved away from having a royal family, living in absolute luxury, doing very little and expecting us to pay for it all!
Plus we must tug our fore locks, and bow and curtesy.
Eventually it will happen. In our grandchildren’s time?!