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Prince Andrew’s alibi....

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BluebellGran Tue 03-Dec-19 20:12:33

I have just watched the Panorama programme featuring Virginia Roberts, about Epstein et al. Surely if Prince Andrew was attending a birthday party, the other parents and children who were also there would have come forward to uphold his alibi? Also I believe that the records kept by his security personal would confirm where he was on that night? Or am I stupid?

Anniebach Wed 04-Dec-19 19:10:51

ananimous you know what the queen has said to her son ?

A mother to a 60 year old son - ‘I insist you confess all to the police ‘.

60 year old son to mother - ‘I will Mother, don’t be cross with me’.

mumofmadboys Wed 04-Dec-19 19:08:26

I don't understand what you are saying ananimous. Are you saying the Queen shouldn't go to church accompanied by PA?

Chestnut Wed 04-Dec-19 18:49:55

As for the sweating, must ask our friend who served in the Falklands with him.
No need to bother, Dr Hilary has confirmed it's extremely rare and none of the causes apply to him. It's just not possible. Also, numerous pictures of him sweating at that time. I think we can conclude he's a fool for even bringing it up.

ananimous Wed 04-Dec-19 18:47:38

Where is her moral compass?, I meant

ananimous Wed 04-Dec-19 18:46:40

In the bible it says God does not forgive you unless you repent of your sins first. But, anyway, I meant that if I was his mother I would tell him to go to the police with everything he can tell them, it's just not right to hide away. Where is his moral compass?

mumofmadboys Wed 04-Dec-19 18:39:04

Churches are for people who have sinned. That's the whole point.

Anniebach Wed 04-Dec-19 18:26:41

What a sin/crime, going to Church

ananimous Wed 04-Dec-19 18:22:37

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion, and that's fine. I think they CAN be blamed. The queen, and her dysfunctional family, clearly condones what he's done/doing: by going to church (?!) with him publicly. (also, for example: 4days visiting with convicted paedo; not helping police inquiries with all the info he must have). That awful interview. They can survive a ((tragic)) car crash, yes, I don't think the monarchy can survive being linked to people who traffick children for sex. I feel so sorry for those girls - they will never get justice. When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die... They always win. But I know of many stalwart monarchists who have turned their backs on that royal shower now.

Anniebach Wed 04-Dec-19 17:52:30

He hasn’t ruined the royal family. Surely a family can’t be blamed for the actions of one family member.

They survived Diana and many were attacking the queen then .

ananimous Wed 04-Dec-19 17:20:33

He should clear off with that awful toe sucking woman. It makes me furious that he's ruined the royal family.

Anniebach Wed 04-Dec-19 17:14:47

Ellen perhaps too many nights ?

Song doubt he knows how Epstein made his money, can’t imagine Epstein giving this info to anyone , far too cunning.

Song7 Wed 04-Dec-19 16:37:12

No evidence can ever undo the image that Prince Andrew has projected: of a smug, conceited fool, who imagines that he can hoodwink the public with this image of himself as superior and beyond reproach. Normal, decent people care about girls being treated like this, dread their daughters and granddaughters being drawn into webs like this from which they cannot escape. He doesn't care, doesn't think, doesn't imagine the repulsion of his client, and us, to behaviour such as his. It would be interesting to know how Epstein made the money to live like this. Perhaps Prince Andrew would have the decency to enlighten us? Perhaps he could direct us to tumbling down the whole sickening edifice of lives like theirs? No? It's the only thing that would convince us that his perspective has changed.

EllanVannin Wed 04-Dec-19 16:21:56

I'm sure he'd remember his nights with a few Tramps Annie.

Anniebach Wed 04-Dec-19 16:04:10

She wasn’t underage.

How on earth can anyone remember one night in Tramp 18
years ago.

Yehbutnobut Wed 04-Dec-19 15:59:49

Someone has apparently come forward to say they saw him at Tramps with the underage girl.

Anniebach Wed 04-Dec-19 15:45:33

Doubt if anyone at Pizza Express would have recognised him,

If it was a birthday party I assume he bought a pizza for all
unless it was a bring your own pizza party !

He hasn’t the intelligence to come up with a plausible porkie.

Daddima Wed 04-Dec-19 15:42:15

Haven’t seen any Pizza Express staff come forward to say he visited. Of course, he may have been heavily disguised.

ayse Wed 04-Dec-19 15:38:05

As Ellen Vanin says, I doubt if we’ll ever know who did what. “Not in the public interest” always seems to prevent information being available that the public ARE interested in!

Waterloosunset Wed 04-Dec-19 15:33:31

Oh Merlot! I nearly choked on my packet of crisps ?

merlotgran Wed 04-Dec-19 15:20:25

He can't even lie without being an arrogant snob! grin

Oldwoman70 Wed 04-Dec-19 15:13:11

If he had shown up at the Pizza Express I am sure someone would have reported it to the local news outlets after. Any indication that happened? - or were the people of Woking subject to a vow of silence.

Sparklefizz Wed 04-Dec-19 15:04:30

Annie He explained that he could remember the party because Pizza Express in Woking was not somewhere he ever frequented grin

Anniebach Wed 04-Dec-19 12:04:22

Everybody can remember a birthday 18 years ago ?

And as the alleged party would have been for family friends why would they be excited about Andrew taking his daughter ?

I assume his daughter received more than one birthday party invitation that year so I doubt he is telling the truth , he can remember one party his daughter went to 18 years ago !

Callistemon Wed 04-Dec-19 11:32:37

He looks as if he could be an appalling 'dad dancer' but others could verify that.

As for the sweating, must ask our friend who served in the Falklands with him.

BluebellGran Wed 04-Dec-19 11:27:30

Everyone knows when their birthday is and their family who arranged the party will know the date and the details, especially as Prince Andrew attended!