John McDonnell - fee paying scholar to Marxist

Maybe you weren't clear in what you were saying, MOnica. I read your post as saying that everyone was entitled to be anything on GGMk3's list of characteristics; i.e, entitled to be arrogant, cruel, racist etc.

If that was not what you meant I apologise for not being a mind reader...

Oh dear Maizie you should really read your own posts.

Me: Everyone, regardless of background, is entitled to be everything on your list. It is truly democratic.

You:^We don't usually regard them as being entitled to lead the country, though,^

As a direct reply to that I listed Prime Ministers who came from ordinary or less than average homes. I was not commenting on their character or anything else, merely their childhood origins.

Thanks, MaizieD
I thought you had missed it!!

I don't read/watch Harry Potter

Ah, as no-one replied I googled it
Rita Skeeter was a Harry Potter character, I thought she must have been a journalist.

Callistomen. Rita Skeeter was the toxic, popular press type, journalist in the Harry Potter books.

I didn't think that everyone would get that reference

I beg your pardon, MOnica. Good examples of what?

Good examples of lying, irresponsible, disloyal, insulting, racist, arrogant, cruel, dangerous, hypocritical, deceitful and idle people who led the country?

I don't think any of them got a Full House... (card game reference)

Who is Rita Skeeter?

You may not, Maizie, but I do. Good examples are Margaret Thatcher and John Major. Possibly Neil Kinnock and Harold Wilson.

It is not the fault of John McDonnell that his parents chose to send him to a fee paying catholic school

Obviously I can't tell my Scouser from my Mancunian.
I've been listening to a Scouser this evening and he sounded nothing like John McD

We don't usually regard them as being entitled to lead the country, though, MOnica

GGMk3 Everyone, regardless of background, is entitled to be everything on your list. It is truly democratic.

Understand your point very well @Yehbutnobut.

Coming from a long line of Scousers, I can hear how the local accent softens & adapts as the diaspora has moved away from the city centre by varying amounts & different directions.

Taking your point, I suggest that JMcD must pop back to his birthplace regularly to top up his Scouse twang., otherwise he’d sound like he came from the Greater London ‘burbs & East Anglia.

there were many other articles - try the Sun, Express or the Daily Mail.

No, Ug, there were just 3 other articles, the ones you mention. (I know because I googled it too) And if you read them all, as I did, they were all of them lifted directly from the Rita Skeeter article in the Mail on Sunday, as was the one you linked to.

It was a non-story, planted to wind you and your ilk up. Worked a treat...

Johnson was an entitled child too. Sadly it has made him an entitled adult.

Entitled to lie.
Entitled to take no responsibility.
Entitled to drop his friends if they aren't useful to him. Entitled to insult.
Entitled to be racist.
Entitled to be arrogant.
Entitled to be cruel.
Entitled to be dangerous.
Entitled to be deceitful.
Entitled to be hypocritical.
Entitled to be idiotic.
Entitled to be lazy.

What a pity he didn't just benefit from the education he was given.

infantile ...

You're bored because you got it wrong...[imo]….

Bored - hey that is easy.... but so so expected.

Just flipped back over a few comments that I’d missed.

growstuff and MaizieD I said I’d picked a source at random! Sorry it was a less than decent one.

Mea culpa.

However, as I pointed out earlier - there were many other articles - try the Sun, Express or the Daily Mail.

I’m bored with this thread now - adios!

You definitely opened a can of worms Urm

Oh my goodness

(a) I cannot believe my little thread (!) is still running

And

(b) that ybnb STILL has it in for me. - such a mean turn of phrase to any OP - Has Ug scuttled quietly away?

I said yesterday afternoon I thought it was time to leave.
I voted ‘aye’

Did you not see it?

No further comment from me on this thread.
?

P.s. I wasn’t ‘scuttling’

Opal Do all Tories or fans of Mr Johnson lie or do they tell the truth and tell us what is incorrect in those articles? Just it's gossip and speculation is a lie unless it can be proved otherwise.

Opal just answer me this, are you really happy with what has happened in this country over the last decade?

A simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ will suffice.

GrannySquare John McD’s does not have much of an accent even though he was born in Liverpool, but..possibly like myself, and others, if I return to my hometown I find myself slipping back into the local accent unconsciously.

Understand?

Has Ug scuttled quietly away?