31st October is going to be tight!

And No Deal was not on the ballot paper. So nobody voted for No Deal.
Before the Referendum even the hard right Brexiteers, (Farage, Fox, Davies, Mogg etc) said we would have a good Deal. Well that hasn’t happened has it!

Of course MPs are supposed to serve their country mostly, but it seems to be commonly thought that they mostly serve themselves. I’m not sure I could disagree with that either.

We had Theresa May tell us 108 times we would leave the EU on the 29th March and now we have Boris our future PM in waiting who has told us numerous times we will be leaving on 31st October 2019 and he knows that if he doesn't deliver it will be the end of the Conservatives. The Brexit Party are ready and waiting in the wings for a general election and will hoover up all the disgruntled Tory and Labour leave voters.

Presenting our new Prime Minister Mr Nigel Farage now wouldn't that be a turn up for the books. Lol ?

I don’t think revoking is an option that MPs want to use. It would immediately lead to cries of denying democracy, meaning the vote. And as Lemon says, MPs are afraid of it being political suicide for themselves, and for their party.

Revoking A50 might be political suicide for many MPs but MPs are supposed to serve the country, not their own ambitions lemongrove.
A No Deal Brexit would be suicide for the whole country - apart from the super rich!

Revoking won’t happen varian it would be political suicide for MP’s.

In case it isn’t obvious btw......most of the country who did
Vote to leave means ‘most leavers’.Go back and read it again.

28 opinion polls between 24 October 2018 - 5 July 2019 asked " If there was a referendum tomorrow, with the following options on the ballot paper, which would you support? The government’s Brexit agreement / Remaining in the EU / Don't know "

It is clear that there is a substantial majority of the UK voters who want us to REMAIN in the EU and it is shameful that they have been totally ignored for the last three years. Of those who expressed a opinion in the latest poll 63% want to remain, only 37% to leave.

whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-tomorrow-with-the-option-of-accepting-the-governments-brexit-agreement-or-remaining-in-the-eu-which-would-you-support/?removed

Article 50 should be revoked, then we can address all the other important issues which have been sidelined since the fraudulent referendum of 2016 and, at a later stage, decide whether or not we want to have another referendum when the true consequenses of the various theoretical brexit options are properly understood.

Whaaaaat?
Does anyone read posts properly? Not you Dinah anyway, it seems.
Where have I said ‘most of the country’ who voted to leave?
Your own posts could be more factual.

Lemongrove you might get more people taking notice of you if you were factual. It wasn't "most of the country" who voted to leave, it was a percentage of the electorate. There is a big difference between the two.

Exactly Urmston am guessing that most who supported leaving the EU cannot be bothered to keep on
‘Keeping on’ on GN in the face of all the constant gnashing of teeth and rending of clothes by arch remainers.

This isn’t just ‘my scenario’ winter but in any case, that wasn’t the reason that MP’s turned it down ( less satisfactory than remaining.) It’s that it wasn’t hard Brexit enough for a lot of ERG members, who could, had they voted for it seen it accepted.
Of course some remainer hard liners voted anything at all down, but there were enough on both sides that did agree with it, had those ERG members accepted it.Just!
It wasn’t a great deal, but we would have left in March and be getting on with trade deals by now.

You may of course be right GillT57 when you say I also note that you are an increasingly lonely voice; perhaps other brexiteers have seen the truth and are quietly regretting the chaos they have wrought.

But perhaps not?

I think a lot of Brexiteers read but don’t post! I sure as hell didn’t carry the referendum on my own.
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Parliament and businesses have had over three years since the Referendum result to get prepared for leaving. This stalemate cannot go on for ever; the UK must be the laughing stock of the world. May's so called deal had nothing to do with discussing how future trade would be conducted and everything to do with ensuring the EU still received a pot of money from us for years to come while still calling all the tunes on future regulations to prevent the UK being fully independent.

I worry about what will happen in Northern Ireland if we go out without a deal. Are the troubles going to start up again? I hope Urmstongran is right and the business men will put pressure on. In my opinion it should have been business men who negotiated a deal not politicians who are all self serving.

But the great hitch with Lemongrove's scenario is surely that the only withdrawal deal put forward wasn't 'reasonable', it was less satisfactory than Remaining would be and this is why MPs voted against it.

Yes, mcem my posts have always been proBrexit, which is a natural follow on as I voted to leave the EU.
I, and most of the country who did vote leave (and I bet quite a few who voted to remain) thought ( in our innocence) that as Parliament had accepted the outcome of the referendum and then gone on to trigger article 50, they would then go on to accept a reasonable withdrawal deal.
That didn’t happen.
I am keeping fingers crossed that Hunt will be the next PM,
But sadly think it will be Johnson.If there is a GE and Johnson crashes and burns, then I hope that Hunt will be the next PM after that!

Lemon's posts have always been probrexit. For a long, long time she urged us to be patient, to trust our negotiators and all would be well.
How patient do you expect us to be?
Hallowe'en is a very long shot!
I now believe that BJ will last a matter of weeks and a GE will finally see the fiasco ended.
However, such chaos and division had taken over the country that it will be a very long hard road to recovery.
That is when we'll need patience.

No Lemongrove, it was a personal attack, as always. As I said I have yet to see you put forward an argument based on facts. Sticking a grin on does not make your unwillingness to put forward a reasoned argument when you disagree with someone else, any funnier.

It was a fact ?

Never a fact or an argument where an insult will do as always Lemongrove.

Such melodramatics!

Well you think what you like urmonstongran and cling to your belief. (Fri 12-Jul-19 18:19:24)

She will GillT57 as will all those for whom this is a belief. They believe if they sacrifice our future - just as in the past people were sacrificed to their gods - then the great god Brexit will smile down upon them and everything will turn into exactly what they want it to be.

UG. If, three years ago you were given the choice of having your legs cut off and told it would greatly improve your health you might have listened to those telling you this and agreed.

If, three years later, you were shown that these people were liars and charlatans and that many, many far more knowledgable people in the field of bodies without legs felt you would be better keeping them you might change your mind.

If, three years ago, your decision meant everybody had their legs cut off even if they didn't believe the liars and charlatans and they had objected, over those three years, to being made to be legless could you not see that it might be time to ask everybody again or just stop the process of cutting off our legs.

Well you think what you like urmonstongran and cling to your belief. I am distraught at the train crash governance of this country and saddened that so many people have been hoodwinked by people like Farage who do.not care a fig for the people who voted for them. I truly do think that a collective madness has taken over. I also note that you are an increasingly lonely voice; perhaps other brexiteers have seen the truth and are quietly regretting the chaos they have wrought. I am finding it very hard to stay polite when I read rubbish and ignorant 'facts,' being used to support the catastrophic decision that a small majority of those who.voted made